Syracuse University moves into first place!

Congratulations to Syracuse University, which has passed the AEI E-Science Group to move into FIRST PLACE among Einstein@Home contributors. Syracuse University has now contributed more computer cycles to the Einstein@Home search than any other participant. Thank you Syracuse!!

Bruce Allen
Director, Einstein@Home

Comments

JuanCarlos MasciarelliFusco.
JuanCarlos Masc...
Joined: 11 Sep 06
Posts: 2
Credit: 2,675,957
RAC: 282

Syracuse University moves into first place!

Estimado Bruce, gracias por su esfuerzo y al grupo en su totalidad, Abrazos Enormes desde Argentina y ha continuar trabajando por el bien de la Ciencia y la VERDAD !!!

Un Placer estimados compa

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,564
Credit: 291,964,003
RAC: 120,980

Dear Bruce, thanks for your

Dear Bruce, thanks for your effort and the group as a whole, Huge Hugs from Argentina and has continued working for the good of Science and TRUTH!
____________
An estimated Placer companions route ... my humble contribution to multiply in the development and dynamics of the project in a matter ... Greetings to all lasting successes desendoles.
JuanCarlos Hugs - Republic Argentina.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Bruce Allen
Bruce Allen
Moderator
Joined: 15 Oct 04
Posts: 1,119
Credit: 172,127,663
RAC: 0

Dear Juan Carlo, thank you

Dear Juan Carlo, thank you very much for the kind words! Cheers, Bruce

Director, Einstein@Home

zubr2009
zubr2009
Joined: 1 Jan 14
Posts: 4
Credit: 667,260
RAC: 0

Bruce congratulations from

Bruce congratulations from the whole of the Republic of Belarus!

МИРУ МИР и яйца всмятку! :D

Enrico Doering
Enrico Doering
Joined: 5 Aug 05
Posts: 1
Credit: 333,594
RAC: 0

GREAT!!! Best regards from

GREAT!!!
Best regards from Germany!

Enrico

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
ExtraTerrestria...
Joined: 10 Nov 04
Posts: 770
Credit: 550,570,592
RAC: 202,290

It's an itersting situation

It's an itersting situation when you can genuinely be happy about being handed down to 2nd place :)

MrS

Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

edjcox
edjcox
Joined: 10 Dec 05
Posts: 11
Credit: 141,337,850
RAC: 0

Thought it might be a good

Thought it might be a good idea to separate individual contributers from organizational ones. Obviously organizational contributers have many more CPU's available than home users. I think it's unfair to those with a few machines to be rated and categorized against those having thousands available and actually do little more than set up those CPU's to perform and then sit back and roll in the credit...

Logforme
Logforme
Joined: 13 Aug 10
Posts: 332
Credit: 1,714,373,961
RAC: 0

RE: ...actually do little

Quote:
...actually do little more than set up those CPU's to perform and then sit back and roll in the credit...


Sounds a lot like the "effort" we all do :)
If you want to compare apples and apples, Boincstats can rank you with others with similar hosts.

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
MAGIC Quantum M...
Joined: 18 Jan 05
Posts: 1,752
Credit: 1,148,024,370
RAC: 1,509,176

I don't mind our statistics

I don't mind our statistics here and it just keeps me going and I am not close to a business or school full of computers.

Just at home where all I see when I look out the windows are trees and the sky.

(and my flock of satellite dishes)

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
ExtraTerrestria...
Joined: 10 Nov 04
Posts: 770
Credit: 550,570,592
RAC: 202,290

You don't have to compare

You don't have to compare yourself to everyone having more credits than you. In fact, that would be quite a negative view. Better be proud of what you achieved (10 million credits are a lot, and you know best what effort this has cost you) and be happy that there are other contributers. The more the better :)

Of course there's also the competitive aspect of BOINC credits. But that doesn't have to get in your way. I try to maximize my contribution, as in use the hardware which I have in a smart way and purchase wisely. If this is enough to overtake others here and there that's nice. And if it's not enough to match Syracuse University - so be it!

MrS

Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,564
Credit: 291,964,003
RAC: 120,980

Some points of general

Some points of general interest :

- the computing capability demographic of E@H is pyramidal/iceberg. There are top performers like Syracuse that do bring a slab of effort into play. However while the great majority of contributors are each of several magnitudes less powerful, they vastly outnumber the big hitters and thus still collectively outperform the top tier. By a good margin.

- Syracuse has a goodly number of LIGO scientists, and groups thereof, some of who were involved in the detectors from well before any first sod was turned. They have a long tradition of involvement from then to current day. Without taking away from any other contributors, I think it's nice to know that LIGO collaboration is well supporting our branch of effort in detail. So we say thanks. And I say 'our branch' because we are all contributing. We are us are them are they .... :-)

- some of our top performers are computing clusters that have done E@H the favor of using our work units to 'burn in' their new components. So some new widget getting installed is going to be registered as a 'user', do some E@H work, and then move on to it's primary role for it's owner. That component is a temporary participant.

- now I know we all have our eyes on the prize, one wants the work unit for a new detection to go through one's personal computer. I certainly do ! But it is still very true that even those that don't 'score a hit' ( which is overwhelmingly most of us ) still do very valuable work :

(a) Determining limits for signal powers, if present. That is because we listened to a certain degree of tolerance, but had no result. That then constrains theory in regard to the signal sources.

(b) Demographics of sources on the sky ie. where they are and where they aren't. That too is fed back into theory about the population of objects causing the signals, and all manner of ideas about how stars and galaxies behave.

(c) Validation of the processing pipeline that E@H forms a part of. Indeed these forums are an integral part of that because we feedback to the developers regarding what does and doesn't work right. Directly and on a short time line. Right across the spread of platforms and apps we collectively pick holes and thrash the developer's products in manner that they could not ever do in house. If there is a corner case there will a host machine somewhere on the planet that will trip over it ! :-)

(d) Giving the moderators a job. Giving the dev's someone to talk to outside of AEI. Giving tech-heads of the world something to aim for when making rigs. :-)

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Jonathan M Sladek
Jonathan M Sladek
Joined: 28 Oct 13
Posts: 9
Credit: 26,297,019
RAC: 0

Super Duper when are we going

Super Duper when are we going to make some more discoveries?

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,564
Credit: 291,964,003
RAC: 120,980

RE: Super Duper when are we

Quote:
Super Duper when are we going to make some more discoveries?


Touche ! :-)

Of my observation over the years, it is a 'bursty' business. That has a couple of components :

- luck is like that. I mean we don't know what we don't know .... who can say what lurks in the next work unit ?

- data supply varies eg. a hiatus at Aricebo due to an earthquake.

- sky positions being searched ie. toward ( denser ) or away ( sparser ) from galactic centre.

- validation & publication related timelines. One has to check, check that the checking is correct, gather up responses from authors/referees .....

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
Moderator
Administrator
Joined: 15 Oct 04
Posts: 4,289
Credit: 245,857,449
RAC: 11,151

RE: - validation &

Quote:
- validation & publication related timelines. One has to check, check that the checking is correct, gather up responses from authors/referees .....

In case of the Radio Pulsar search the "candidates" we get from the E@H survey are verified (and the parameters narrowed down) by "re-observing" the respective sky point / region. This means that we need to allocate observation time on a telescope that can see this particular part of the sky with high enough sensitivity (roughly: the fainter the signal and the smaller the dish, the more time we need). Currently observation time is a noticeably limiting factor.

BM

BM

AgentB
AgentB
Joined: 17 Mar 12
Posts: 915
Credit: 513,211,304
RAC: 0

RE: Currently observation

Quote:
Currently observation time is a noticeably limiting factor.

I often wonder about the vast amount of telescope data that gets generated, and the percentage of data that eventually ends up being public (i guess i mean available for secondary use and scrutiny).

Arecibo has been running 50 years, Parkes even longer so E@H must only have a processed a tiny fraction of the entire data that might be relevant.

Is it easier to recover old data from other earlier observations, than re-observe?

Would a second observation based on old data be sufficient to publish?

ExtraTerrestrial Apes
ExtraTerrestria...
Joined: 10 Nov 04
Posts: 770
Credit: 550,570,592
RAC: 202,290

Since the telescopes get

Since the telescopes get upgraded over time the newest data is probably the best one. Apart from that.. if something new is found in old data without doubt there should be no problem publishing this.

MrS

Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002