S5R3B_1 Validation error

Sabroe_SMC
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Hi to all
please have a close look to http://einsteinathome.org/task/93815637 this Result.
Its done under XP Sp2 with App 4.36.
thx for all
Sabroe SMC

Michael Karlinsky
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S5R3B_1 Validation error

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Hi to all
please have a close look to http://einsteinathome.org/task/93815637 this Result.
Its done under XP Sp2 with App 4.36.
thx for all
Sabroe SMC

Looks strange to me. Validate state is "Checked, but no consesus yet", but the other guy already got credits. If the results differ, nobody should get credit and a third result should be issued (that happened). And validation should start after the third result comes in...

Michael

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RE: Looks strange to me.

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Looks strange to me. Validate state is "Checked, but no consesus yet", but the other guy already got credits. If the results differ, nobody should get credit and a third result should be issued (that happened). And validation should start after the third result comes in...

Michael

wu has a quorum of 2 and a validation error from second host.

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Looks strange to me. Validate state is "Checked, but no consesus yet", but the other guy already got credits. If the results differ, nobody should get credit and a third result should be issued (that happened). And validation should start after the third result comes in...

Michael

wu has a quorum of 2 and a validation error from second host.

Actually, I think you are missing the point. Michael noted that it was weird because when there is a "no consensus" issue, nobody should get credit before the third result is returned. Also when a result is in that "checked but no consensus" state, it isn't listed as a "validation error" as well.

If you look up the meaning of validation error, you get the following:-

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The task was reported but could not be validated, typically because the output files were lost on the server.


I think the OP may have been the victim of cruel circumstances. Recently, there was a period of database problems on the servers. There were several comments about missing or mangled threads here on the boards. The OP's machine returned results in this general period and then, a little later, tried to report two results during a request for work. If you look at the results list for the OP's machine, you will see these two validate errors both at exactly the same time. The machine has 2 CPUs so it is quite possible that 2 tasks may have been finished quite close together and the results uploaded just at the time that the database was having issues. I'm guessing that these 2 uploads may have become "lost on the server" so that the subsequent reporting stage then turned them into "validate errors" when the files couldn't be found.

It would be interesting to know if anybody else had validate errors at about this particular time. It will also be interesting to see if the OP's machine now returns to normal when further results are reported.

Cheers,
Gary.

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RE: Michael noted that it

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Michael noted that it was weird because when there is a "no consensus" issue, nobody should get credit before the third result is returned.


I looked at the task at the time as well and there was no credit granted then, the second computer had the error and initially the third was unsent. It was sent later, but there was still no credit granted to the first computer, it was only claimed and in pending.

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I looked at the task at the time as well and there was no credit granted then, the second computer had the error and initially the third was unsent. It was sent later, but there was still no credit granted to the first computer, it was only claimed and in pending.

Thanks for that. I hadn't seen the task at the time of the initial report so I took Michael's report at face value. If the credit for the first machine was only pending then the weirdness disappears.

Cheers,
Gary.

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Thanks for that. I hadn't seen the task at the time of the initial report so I took Michael's report at face value. If the credit for the first machine was only pending then the weirdness disappears.

I could swear that credit was granted....

Michael

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It would be interesting to know if anybody else had validate errors at about this particular time. It will also be interesting to see if the OP's machine now returns to normal when further results are reported.

@Gary
The next 6 Results of the Box were correct and validated. I think your opinion was right, that the Results were lost on the server in cause of database faults or so.

Sabroe

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The next 6 Results of the Box were correct and validated.

I'm very pleased to hear that. I'm pretty sure we can blame this little hiccup on the servers.

Cheers,
Gary.

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