Nvidia Maxwell and Kepler users , wanna test new "powerfull" official Vulkan drivers ?

Forums › Cruncher's Corner

Richie
Richie
Joined: 7 Mar 14
Posts: 656
Credit: 1702989778
RAC: 0

Now with another card... GTX

26 Feb 2016 14:54:27 UTC
Message 137486
(moderation:
    )

    Now with another card... GTX 760, underclocked, running three BRP6-Beta-cuda55's simultaneously. Again, 356.43 made a clear reduction on the CPU time on every task. These are average results I chose by eye:

    361.91:
    https://einsteinathome.org/task/546917503

    356.43:
    https://einsteinathome.org/task/546921590

    Rantanplan
    Rantanplan
    Joined: 13 Dec 08
    Posts: 87
    Credit: 100633285
    RAC: 0

    No gain (gpu) on Nvidia 7xx

    26 Feb 2016 15:05:05 UTC
    Message 137487 in response to message 137486
    (moderation:
      )

      No gain (gpu) on Nvidia 7xx and newer...

      I am running single workunit, with "Nvidia Experience" , maybe theres a small headroom up ?

      Just for fun i will run 3 wus , too. And see.

      My forecast calculation says : 10200s each wu for the gpu.

      I also have manualy this installed:

      C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\356.43-vkonly\Win8_WinVista_Win7_64\International\Display.Driver

      VulkanRT-1.0.2.0-Installer.exe

      u got it too ?

      Rantanplan
      Rantanplan
      Joined: 13 Dec 08
      Posts: 87
      Credit: 100633285
      RAC: 0

      1st:

      26 Feb 2016 18:22:27 UTC
      Message 137488 in response to message 137487
      (moderation:
        )

        1st: 10296s
        https://einsteinathome.org/task/548128636

        2nd: 10316s
        https://einsteinathome.org/task/548128637

        3rd: and the worst 10472s
        https://einsteinathome.org/task/548130443

        lol, i saved 976 seconds on crunshing 3 wus at the same time, not much.

        But what will that tell us ?

        Richie
        Richie
        Joined: 7 Mar 14
        Posts: 656
        Credit: 1702989778
        RAC: 0

        RE: VulkanRT-1.0.2.0-Instal

        26 Feb 2016 20:12:18 UTC
        Message 137489 in response to message 137487
        (moderation:
          )

          Quote:

          VulkanRT-1.0.2.0-Installer.exe

          u got it too ?

          No, I don't know what that is. I didn't install anything else than the display driver (and non-avoidable PhysX...) from the 356.43-vkonly_geforce_win10_64bit_international.exe .

          Rantanplan
          Rantanplan
          Joined: 13 Dec 08
          Posts: 87
          Credit: 100633285
          RAC: 0

          well, this exe-file is are

          26 Feb 2016 20:28:15 UTC
          Message 137490 in response to message 137489
          (moderation:
            )

            well, this exe-file is are the API Runtime Librarys, must be importent for the regular use. I dont know if it changes anything, i installed the drivers, and dont saw anything that said me that the Vulkan devices drivers were installed, then i searched on my own, and got it.

            Daniels_Parents
            Daniels_Parents
            Joined: 9 Feb 05
            Posts: 101
            Credit: 1877689213
            RAC: 0

            https://developer.nvidia.com/

            5 Mar 2016 15:22:14 UTC
            Message 137491
            (moderation:
              )

              https://developer.nvidia.com/Vulkan
              https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver

              Vulkan Driver Support
              Windows driver version 356.45 and Linux driver version 355.00.29 provide beta support for Vulkan. Release Updates: March 2nd

              Vulkan on NVIDIA Hardware FAQ

              .....

              4) Will there be an official (non-beta) NVIDIA driver with Vulkan support?

              Yes. We plan to include Vulkan in both Windows and Linux drivers in an upcoming driver release. These will be available to all users to run Vulkan content as part of our regular driver releases.

              .....

              Can wait :-)

              I know I am a part of a story that starts long before I can remember and continues long beyond when anyone will remember me [Danny Hillis, Long Now]

              cliff
              cliff
              Joined: 15 Feb 12
              Posts: 176
              Credit: 283452444
              RAC: 0

              RE: Yes. We plan to

              7 Mar 2016 20:53:01 UTC
              Message 137492 in response to message 137491
              (moderation:
                )

                Quote:


                Yes. We plan to include Vulkan in both Windows and Linux drivers in an upcoming driver release. These will be available to all users to run Vulkan content as part of our regular driver releases.

                .....

                Can wait :-)

                Driver has now been released by Nvidia 364.47 for Win vista/7/8 and Win10 32 & 64 WHQL
                Vulkan as I understand it allows closer usage of the hardware, with less overhead. But I assume that requires that the api be addressed by programming for it with whatever application is being run..

                Didn't think any e@h app did so.. unless there is some sort of tie in with Cuda I'm not aware of.. And since I'm most certainly NOT a programmer I leave that to those who are:-)

                Yet to try it:-)

                Cheers,

                Cliff,

                Been there, Done that, Still no damm T Shirt.

                cliff
                cliff
                Joined: 15 Feb 12
                Posts: 176
                Credit: 283452444
                RAC: 0

                Hi Folks, Well I tried

                8 Mar 2016 13:55:34 UTC
                Message 137493
                (moderation:
                  )

                  Hi Folks,
                  Well I tried Nvidia's latest & greatest:-( And for me it sucks!
                  I run an Asus sabertooth FX 990 Mobo, Amd FX 9590 cpu and 2 GTX 980ti GPU's.
                  1 x 980ti is dedicated to E@H
                  1 x 980ti is dedicated to MW@H
                  cpu runs 1 x A@H cpu task.

                  Both GPU's have NVI corrected p2 state memory timings to 3505MHz
                  Cpu has OC FSB of + 11 Mhz.

                  Under the new driver I observed a reduction in time to complete [TTC] of 5/6 secs for MW@H tasks down from 1 min 55 secs to 1 min 49/50 secs.

                  For E@H I had 3 min plus added to TTC for BRP6 tasks!!
                  For A@H no significant change.

                  I have reverted to a prior driver by simply installing it over the new one.
                  And saw an immediate improvement in BRP6 times. Back to 43 mins 30 secs per task.
                  Boinc properties box showed a 2.147 % per Min for E@H BRP6 with the new driver and 2.316 % per min for the older driver at max and 2.286 at lowest.
                  That for me was the clincher!

                  I suspect that its possible that the earlier non WHQL Vulkan driver works better than the new release because the non vulkan part of the install is better suited to E@H tasks.

                  My tuppence worth, YMMV.

                  Cheers,

                  Cliff,

                  Been there, Done that, Still no damm T Shirt.

                  Keith Myers
                  Keith Myers
                  Joined: 11 Feb 11
                  Posts: 4981
                  Credit: 18798767422
                  RAC: 7831904

                  Thanks for the report, Cliff.

                  8 Mar 2016 20:21:51 UTC
                  Message 137494 in response to message 137493
                  (moderation:
                    )

                    Thanks for the report, Cliff. I suspected that the new Vulkan API mechanism in the latest drivers would offer no benefit to distributed computing. Likely no benefit to gaming either until the game developers can hook into the API optimizations that Vulkan offers. Appreciate you being the 'guinea pig' instead of me.

                     

                    cliff
                    cliff
                    Joined: 15 Feb 12
                    Posts: 176
                    Credit: 283452444
                    RAC: 0

                    Hi Keith, RE: Thanks

                    8 Mar 2016 21:09:43 UTC
                    Message 137495 in response to message 137494
                    (moderation:
                      )

                      Hi Keith,

                      Quote:
                      Thanks for the report, Cliff. I suspected that the new Vulkan API mechanism in the latest drivers would offer no benefit to distributed computing. Likely no benefit to gaming either until the game developers can hook into the API optimizations that Vulkan offers. Appreciate you being the 'guinea pig' instead of me.

                      You're welcome:-)
                      Yup I suspect the same, and perhaps the more recent NVidia drivers are less then helpful crunching E@H WU than earlier ones. Dunno what they have done with their 'gaming' tweaks, but it certainly seems to impact DComp adversely, at least on AMD platforms. Maybe they do less harm on intel based rigs?
                      Again being a distrustful soul I suspect competition might be behind any AMD based rig problems.. but who knows..

                      Regards,

                      Cliff,

                      Been there, Done that, Still no damm T Shirt.

                      Comment viewing options

                      Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

                      Forums › Cruncher's Corner