Non-Newtonian Fluid and other Science Magic

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Pool filled with Non-Newtonian Fluid
check this out:
http://rvincoletto.multiply.com/video/item/59

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_Newtonian_fluid

Magic Sand

http://ageekfamily.blogspot.com/2006/11/magic-sand.html

http://rvincoletto.multiply.com/photos/album/164
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Non-Newtonian Fluid and other Science Magic

information cannot be destroyed...

there is no doubt in my mind that ancients exist in every way exactly as their information existed at any time...quite a bit better, i might guess from their ability to share their minds openly, without the idiotic human brain barriers...

i would further speculate that their information had no start nor can it ever have an end...biology is not any more omnipotent than psychology or even parapsychology [e.g. Jeffrey Mishlove PhD Parapsychology UCLA]...

i think, for decades, JM is still the only major univ. PhD in his field...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Mishlove

http://www.thinkingallowed.com/

Mishlove on Death and Dying:
http://jeff.zaadz.com/blog/
http://www.mishlove.com/index2.htm

the human brain whether dead or alive, or potentially in either of these ambiguous states, does not qualify as an omnipotent determinant of my information, whether i observe that info, or express it, in whatever way it can be expressed...

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in defense of the

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in defense of the brain:

http://db.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith2003/
Lord Reith: 'There are some people whom it is one's duty to offend!'

The Reith Lectures were inaugurated in 1948 by the BBC to mark the historic contribution made to
public service broadcasting by Sir John (later Lord) Reith, the corporation's first director-general.

The subject of this lecture series is The Emerging Mind.

This year's Reith lecturer is the noted neuroscientist Vilayanur S. Ramachandran, Director of the
Centre for Brain and Cognition at the University of California (San Diego).

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...the brain cannot only discover how other brains work but also ask questions about itself, who am I? What is the meaning of my existence, especially if you are from India? Why do I laugh? Why do I dream, why do I enjoy art, music and poetry? Does my mind consist entirely of the activity of neurons in my brain? If so, what scope is there for free will? It is the peculiar recursive quality of these questions as the brain struggles to understand itself that makes neurology so fascinating. The prospect of answering these questions in the next millennium is both exhilarating and disquieting, but it's surely the greatest adventure that our species has ever embarked upon.

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RE: in defense of the

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in defense of the brain:
Does my mind consist entirely of the activity of neurons in my brain? If so, what scope is there for free will? It is the peculiar recursive quality of these questions as the brain struggles to understand itself that makes neurology so fascinating. The prospect of answering these questions in the next millennium is both exhilarating and disquieting, but it's surely the greatest adventure that our species has ever embarked upon.

My two favoured books on this subject were written by prof. Roger Penrose of Oxford University. The first (easier) is "The emperor's new mind". The second, more difficult, is "Shadows of the mind". Both stress the relevance of quantum mechanics in clarifying the brain to mind relationship (but see also the preceding works of prof. Karl Pribram of Stanford University). I have written to both summarizing my ideas on this subject and I received a very kind response from both. So encouraged, I did the same bold thing with two Italian physicists whom I personally knew. No one bothered even to answer "you are a crackpot". I would have preferred this to a no answer.
Tullio

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thanks for the message

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thanks for the message tullio...for me, 'no news is good news' could mean NEVER listen to any news, which is what i try to do :) or if the other Italian physicists did not respond, that could still be good news someday, maybe they are trying to learn more about your ideas, as i must do, since i am only a messenger, i cannot even think of an intelligent question to ask you :)

hopefully someone else will respond intelligently :)

http://www.acsa2000.net/bcngroup/jponkp/
Karl Pribram's "Holographic Brain Theory" compared

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_H._Pribram

http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~koch/unconscious-homunculus.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Jackendoff

http://psyche.cs.monash.edu.au/v2/psyche-2-09-chalmers.html

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Mind]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Mind[/url]

http://www.friesian.com/penrose.htm

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tullio, perhaps

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tullio, perhaps

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summarizing my ideas on this subject

here in very simple laymen's language if possible, would help me :)

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/reviews/penrose1/penrose1.html

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RE: tullio, perhaps

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tullio, perhaps
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summarizing my ideas on this subject

here in very simple laymen's language if possible, would help me :)

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/reviews/penrose1/penrose1.html


I think that Penrose's "The emperor's new mind" is still the best introduction to this approach to the brain/mind problem, far better than what I could offer. It came as a surprise to ne that a great theoretical physicist like Penrose could arrive to the same ideas that I had about 20 years before. But nobody would have listened to me, I am not an Oxford professor. Another readable book which also deals with this approach is "Disturbing the universe", by Freeman J.Dyson, another great theoretical physicist. It looks like I am in good company, but, as Christ said, nemo propheta in patria. Cheers.
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ha ha ha all four of my

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ha ha ha all four of my grandparents came from Italy to the USA about 1900...

but i thought in Italy, everyone is a prophet, maybe only if they come to USA:

an italian man came to America in 1900...in 1984, he was interviewed by the Italian American Society...they asked him why he came to America...and what he found there...

the man said, in Italy, they told me that in America, the streets were paved with gold...in America i found out three things...

1. the streets were NOT paved with gold...
2. the streets were NOT EVEN PAVED...
3. I HAD TO PAVE THEM...

Disturbing the Universe: Freeman Dyson Wins the 2000 Templeton Prize for Religion
http://www.science-spirit.org/article_detail.php?article_id=201

Freeman Dyson's Home Page
http://www.sns.ias.edu/~dyson/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/mars-a-bomb.shtml

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the brilliant British mathematician and physicist Freeman Dyson. "Freeman Dyson is one of the few authentic geniuses I've ever met", says Arthur C. Clarke.

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ha Dyson's purpose in the

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ha Dyson's purpose in the book Disturbing the Universe...

to explain the scientific world view to the unscientific...

i found it impossible to do even with my own parents...

unless there is immunization in childhood, or some way to
protect the brain and body from natural predators of the
microscopic world, fear and fundamentalist religion, or a
superstitious unique exorcism ritual, takes over the mind!

i could add too: i was born a genetically endowed scientist...
i simply never reached my potential because i was beaten up :)
my classmates hated me for getting As without studying much...

my father was genetically a hunter and fisherman, his father
endowed genetically as a gardener/horticulturalist, there was
simply no room in our battered minds for any common thoughts...

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