No work units from Einstein

Fekete Jim
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Is there a problem?? Finally Seti has stablized and getting lots of throughput but now I have nothing from Einstein.

"Life is not measured by the number of
breaths we take, but by the moments that
take our breath away."

Regards; :-) Jim

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No work units from Einstein

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Is there a problem?? Finally Seti has stablized and getting lots of throughput but now I have nothing from Einstein.

You are most likely making up time owed to SETI. Can you look in your logs and see if it says something like "requesting 0 seconds of work"? That would point to a Long Term Debt issue.

Kathryn

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RE: Is there a problem??

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Is there a problem?? Finally Seti has stablized and getting lots of throughput but now I have nothing from Einstein.

Jim,

Boinc has been ignoring Seti's workshare and doing Einstein instead for some time due to server outage, incurring a debt to Seti, so now it's "payback" time. Best advice, unless you are seeing unusual warning or error messages, is to relax, kick back, and let it work. A normal balance will arrive when inter-project debts are evened-out.

Regards,

Michael
(edit) Kathryn, you're just too quick for me :-)

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Ed Vaver
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I have a similar problem. On

I have a similar problem. On Dec 14 I got the following messages, and since then, no work from Einstein. But Seti downloads work just fine. I am running only Seti and Einstein on my PC.

I tried doing a reset to the Einstein project, but nothing changed.

2005-12-14 10:02:43 [Einstein@Home] Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
2005-12-14 10:02:43 [Einstein@Home] Reason: To fetch work
2005-12-14 10:02:43 [Einstein@Home] Requesting 6003 seconds of new work
2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: No work sent
2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.3% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that, this project gets 50.0% of that
2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] No work from project
2005-12-14 10:03:48 [Einstein@Home] Fetching master file
2005-12-14 10:03:53 [Einstein@Home] Master file download succeeded
2005-12-14 10:03:58 [Einstein@Home] Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
2005-12-14 10:03:58 [Einstein@Home] Reason: To fetch work
2005-12-14 10:03:58 [Einstein@Home] Requesting 6079 seconds of new work
2005-12-14 10:04:03 [Einstein@Home] Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
2005-12-14 10:04:04 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: No work sent
2005-12-14 10:04:04 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.3% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that, this project gets 50.0% of that
2005-12-14 10:04:04 [Einstein@Home] No work from project
2005-12-14 15:38:53 [---] request_reschedule_cpus: process exited

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RE: I tried doing a reset

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I tried doing a reset to the Einstein project, but nothing changed.

PLEASE do not use "reset" unless it's the last resort... In this specific case, it either has done nothing, or has complicated your problem by shifting Long Term Debts around. (Zeroing the debt for Einstein, which could make it _less_ likely to get work.)

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2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: No work sent
2005-12-14 10:02:48 [Einstein@Home] Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 99.3% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that, this project gets 50.0% of that

This is telling you the problem. Whatever SETI work you have on your system is in danger of not finishing before deadline, you are already in "Earliest Deadline First" mode, and no additional work from any project is going to be allowed until that is resolved.

It is possible that you are in EDF mode "incorrectly", but in order to determine that, we need a bit more information. Your cache size, how many WUs from SETI you have in your "Work" tab, and the deadlines for each. It also helps if you quit BOINC completely (file/exit if you are on Windows), then relaunch BOINC Manager, give it a minute to get going, then copy _all_ of the messages from the Messages tab and paste them here.

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I restarted BOINC. These are

I restarted BOINC. These are the messages at startup.
I could not copy/paste from the WORK tab.
I currently have 14 WU from Seti. Each will take about 5 hours on my PC.
The earliest deadline is 1/7/2006 1:21pm.
I have asked for a 3 day supply of work, and that is how long it should take to finish these WU.

12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.2.13 for windows_intelx86
12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC
12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 1.80GHz
12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||Memory: 254.92 MB physical, 1008.65 MB virtual
12/26/2005 2:39:31 PM||Disk: 37.25 GB total, 29.63 GB free
12/26/2005 2:39:32 PM|Einstein@Home|Computer ID: 480207; location: ; project prefs: default
12/26/2005 2:39:32 PM|SETI@home|Computer ID: 1262733; location: home; project prefs: default
12/26/2005 2:39:32 PM||General prefs: from Einstein@Home (last modified 2005-12-16 08:19:13)
12/26/2005 2:39:32 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
12/26/2005 2:39:33 PM||Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
12/26/2005 2:39:33 PM|SETI@home|Resuming computation for result 16fe05aa.29233.19600.540884.1.111_0 using setiathome version 418

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Two projects and a 3-day

Two projects and a 3-day cache should not be a problem... the only remaining figures I can think of that would have any effect are the "CPU efficiency" and "Result Duration Correction Factor", both of which are shown on "Your Accounts", "View computers". Both of these _should_ be somewhere "close" to 1. Normally they will both be slightly under 1. If the efficiency is _way_ under 1, say 0.5 or less, or the DCF is above 2, there could be a problem.

I don't think the problem is debt-related, the message indicates it's deadline related - but the startup messages don't indicate that your computer is overcommitted. I'm lost, unless it's the figures above. If those are off, we can edit your client_state.xml file to correct them.

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Whatever the problem was, it

Whatever the problem was, it corrected itself today.

I rebooted my PC, and when BOINC came up, it downloaded 3 days worth of work from Einstein and started to run it. Now it looks like its running as it should.

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

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RE: Whatever the problem

Message 21780 in response to message 21779

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Whatever the problem was, it corrected itself today.

Must have been a debt problem after all, or just an "overload" of SETI work on hand (or it thought there was). Glad it's running now!

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I'm also not receiving work

I'm also not receiving work from Eistein, but I think mine is a time debt issue. A few days ago when I increased my work queue to 3 days instead of .5 days Rosetta was the first to respond and sent me about 30 work units while the other projects only sent me 2-3 (Even though SETI is my largest resource share).

Now only SETI is accepting new work, see below:

12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Reason: Requested by user
12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results
12/31/2005 10:10:51 PM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 17532 seconds of new work
12/31/2005 10:16:26 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
12/31/2005 10:16:28 PM|SETI@home|Started download of 17fe05aa.16807.27760.428408.1.137

Would someone with more experience confirm my suspicion please? I'd hate to run around for days trying to get more Einstein work if it is working properly right now.

--Thomas

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RE: I'm also not receiving

Message 21782 in response to message 21781

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I'm also not receiving work from Eistein, but I think mine is a time debt issue. A few days ago when I increased my work queue to 3 days instead of .5 days Rosetta was the first to respond and sent me about 30 work units while the other projects only sent me 2-3 (Even though SETI is my largest resource share).

Now only SETI is accepting new work, see below:

12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi
12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Reason: Requested by user
12/31/2005 10:10:46 PM|Einstein@Home|Note: not requesting new work or reporting results

12/31/2005 10:10:51 PM|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request to http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/EinsteinAtHome_cgi/cgi succeeded
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Reason: To fetch work
12/31/2005 10:16:21 PM|SETI@home|Requesting 17532 seconds of new work
12/31/2005 10:16:26 PM|SETI@home|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi succeeded
12/31/2005 10:16:28 PM|SETI@home|Started download of 17fe05aa.16807.27760.428408.1.137

Would someone with more experience confirm my suspicion please? I'd hate to run around for days trying to get more Einstein work if it is working properly right now.

--Thomas

The line I bolded indicates that Einstein doesn't want any new work at the moment.

If you are interested in your LTD/STD numbers, you can install a little program that works with BOINC called BOINC DebtView.

I use it to monitor my debt values and it was really easy to install and use.

Most of the time the best way to deal with BOINC and schedulling is to let it do its own thing. When the numbers are favorable, it will dl new work.

Hope this answers your question.

kathryn

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