no task running while not in use

boistordu
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So,

 

there is one crazy problem I'm noticing.

when tasks of einstein are running and that the config file comes from einstein, the task are not moving forward. The message from the screensaver is:

 

"no running applications when computer is not in use". I'm not joking and I hope I'm not hallucinating. So did you somehow screw the configuration xml file somehow on the server?

 

Gary Roberts
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Your tasks list for the

Your tasks list for the computer on your account shows no tasks at all.  Is BOINC actually running and do you allow it to receive tasks from Einstein?

If you get some work happening, I think the screensaver message might be quite different.  I don't think anybody has "screwed the configuration on the server" but it might be a different story for the client :-).  You have a nice powerful machine so it should be capable of doing lots of work.  Your machine has recently contacted the server and the record there shows it wasn't asking for any work??  You need to check your local settings.

Cheers,
Gary.

boistordu
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Hi gary, So since we don't

Hi gary,

So since we don't understand each other or that my message was not quite clear, here some context and some facts:

 

1/ I'm a member since ... more than 12 years ? at least for seti so I know pretty well how Boinc works

2/ there was a long list of tasks int the waiting list, but there was 3 tasks from einstein that were somehow blocking the process

3/ As I said, the tasks from einstein were running only when the computer was in use.

4/ I can generalise the previous point to all task since nothing was running at all.

4bis/ the 3 task were due for the 18th july, so several days ago-> so the problem have been occuring for quite a few days now without I noticed it since it's not one of my primary hosts.

5/ the preference were explicitly said as loaded from the website of einstein since it was the last update of the settings.

6/ I definitely think that there is a logic problem in the xml server. Maybe only on my account, maybe in general I don't know.

7/ Why do I think that? Because I uninstalled this afternoon boinc, restart, rename the old boinc data folder, reinstalled boinc, designated the new data folder (but since those settings are in the registry I didn't have to specify anything), reattached to worldcommunitygrid and setiathome, change the location to work for computing preferences, and YAY again the same problem.

8/ I've looked in the prefs of the application and here we go again, the einstein prefs from the website....

=> the problem is on the server

9/ I've change one single setting (number of cpu to 33%) in the worldcommunitygrid prefs and setiathome pref to have something more up-to-date than einstein and VOILA... the tasks are running again

=> yeah the problem is defintely on the einstein server part.

 

 

So this is not a local file problem, since folder renamed,

it is not a local pref, since it was loaded from the website,

it is not a setting in the preferences itself on the website, since I try to have the same everything on every project and with other rpef file it works.

 

 

So can you maybe enlighten me here where I'm mistaking or where I've done something wrong or why my test topology is not accurate?

Best regards

 

 

boistordu
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Ow and I have still the

Ow and I have still the screenshot of the list of task with their actual name if you need it. + the local folder ranmed as I stated before.

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So if you look at your

So if you look at your computing preferences here on Einstein@home, and click on Advanced settings. Then under "Suspend when no mouse/keyboard input in last: X minutes (This allows some computers to enter low-power mode when not in use.)" Is this set to anything but 0 (zero)?

Gary Roberts
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The account you are posting

The account you are posting under has a single current computer whose hostID is 12276809.  That computer has recent contact with the servers but has no tasks on board.  There are also lots of other computers listed but the most recent of those made contact with the project back in May 2017.

You joined this project back in January 2005 so you have been here longer than me - well over 14 years.  I did understand that you've been using BOINC for a long time so I didn't go into basic instructions about BOINC configuration.  From the extra information you've now posted, it seems likely the problem is to do with multiple accounts at Einstein - something I've never had the joys of experiencing :-).

Please check to ensure that the above link shows the computers you expect to see at Einstein.  The computer I see has no tasks and if your computer is the same hardware, but with tasks, it must be on a separate account  You could try to confirm that by checking what entry is in your state file for <hostid>nnnnnn</hostid>.  If it's not showing as 12276809 then it's certainly not on the account under which you are posting.

One other thing you may be able to try is to use the 'authenticator' to login.  If that works, you could see exactly what account your computer of interest has been registered under.  The authenticator is a 32 character string you can find in a file in the BOINC data folder.  The filename should be account_einstein.phys.uwm.edu.xml.  I'm not entirely sure that the authenticator can still be used to login as there was some discussion a while ago about the possibility of removing that login method.  I don't recall what the final decision was.

Cheers,
Gary.

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