NO NEW TASKS

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
MAGIC Quantum M...
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Why do you suppose one of my pc's keeps getting several days worth of new work even though it is set to NOT allow new work??

I even have it set for one days worth and it gives me an entire page of work.

I tried resetting that on the projects page several times but it keeps giving me more just after I send some in.

And as you can tell I have been doing this for a long
time and usually wouldn't ask.

http://einsteinathome.org/host/4063825

Jord
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NO NEW TASKS

When you reset while you have work, or even while you have no work, you will actually be deleting the data files that Einstein works with. With the "resend lost work" option that this project has on, those data files will then be sent back to you. And that can be a little more than the work you've actually got on your system.

So don't reset and just wait until it reaches the end of queue. The last communications log shows it isn't asking for work: "[send] CPU: req 0.00 sec, 0.00 instances; est delay 0.00".

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
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The only reason I tried

The only reason I tried "reset" is because after a few days of trying "no new tasks" it continued to add new ones every time I sent a couple in.

And it just did it again.

And the MAIN problem is that it stops another program that only does one WU at a time and I don't want that one to ever have to just sit there and wait.

So just like I had to do a few days ago I have to go through and suspend each Einstein WU one at a time and just let it run 2 WU's and one of the other type (3-core)

I have the exact same computer sitting next to this one that doesn't have this problem and the same with my quad-core.

So I have to watch these Einstein Units so I can turn in the 2 WU's and start 2 more manually.

It's a pain in the....

Jord
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RE: And it just did it

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And it just did it again.


Again the log shows that they are resends of lost work. Not new work.

And if you don't believe that on-line log, just post your messages. I'm sure it'll say exactly the same thing.

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And the MAIN problem is that it stops another program that only does one WU at a time and I don't want that one to ever have to just sit there and wait.


Which program might that be, a BOINC one or a non-BOINC one?
If a non-BOINC one, why don't you use the "Suspend work if CPU usage is above X%" option, which is specifically set for non-BOINC programs, so they don't interfere with BOINC and vice versa? BOINC programs are already programmed to run at the lowest priority (CPU applications at least, GPU applications run at slightly higher priority), so if this is a non-BOINC program at a higher priority, it should take all CPUs and BOINC will be left with whatever left-overs of CPU cycles there are.

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So just like I had to do a few days ago I have to go through and suspend each Einstein WU one at a time and just let it run 2 WU's and one of the other type (3-core)


Now, there is a Suspend Einstein button, you know?

You can also set BOINC to run with less than all the CPUs available to it, so it and the other program might run side-by-side. To do so, set the option On multiprocessors, use at most 100% of the processors to 33%. That way you tell BOINC to use one core and any other program can take the other 2. Or set it to 66%, etc.

You can set this value either through the on-line preferences, or through the advanced preferences in BOINC Manager. Depends on which you use now, as the local preferences override the web preferences for that one computer only.

MAGIC Quantum Mechanic
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RE: RE: And it just did

Quote:
Quote:
And it just did it again.

Again the log shows that they are resends of lost work. Not new work.

And if you don't believe that on-line log, just post your messages. I'm sure it'll say exactly the same thing.

Quote:
And the MAIN problem is that it stops another program that only does one WU at a time and I don't want that one to ever have to just sit there and wait.

Which program might that be, a BOINC one or a non-BOINC one?
If a non-BOINC one, why don't you use the "Suspend work if CPU usage is above X%" option, which is specifically set for non-BOINC programs, so they don't interfere with BOINC and vice versa? BOINC programs are already programmed to run at the lowest priority (CPU applications at least, GPU applications run at slightly higher priority), so if this is a non-BOINC program at a higher priority, it should take all CPUs and BOINC will be left with whatever left-overs of CPU cycles there are.

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So just like I had to do a few days ago I have to go through and suspend each Einstein WU one at a time and just let it run 2 WU's and one of the other type (3-core)

Now, there is a Suspend Einstein button, you know?

You can also set BOINC to run with less than all the CPUs available to it, so it and the other program might run side-by-side. To do so, set the option On multiprocessors, use at most 100% of the processors to 33%. That way you tell BOINC to use one core and any other program can take the other 2. Or set it to 66%, etc.

You can set this value either through the on-line preferences, or through the advanced preferences in BOINC Manager. Depends on which you use now, as the local preferences override the web preferences for that one computer only.

Well of course I know all of that and like I said already I did those settings.
(projects,tasks,and advanced)
I didn't accidentally get 4.7 million credits here at home with my computers
I just didn't want to repeatedly get a page full of WU's of "lost work" which were ones I aborted when it tried to give them to me and of course as I said I have it set to NOT receive work.

The other program is also a BOINC program (alpha)

But anyway.......I just suspended all of them and then "resume" a few at a time until they finish and keep doing that until they are all done and at the same time don't ever stop the alpha.

I usually had Einstein set to have 10 days at a time but since March 1st I have had it set to 3 days.

No big deal but you know members who have been doing this since 2005 have looked and tried every setting.......even back in the Seti Classic days years before that.

I was just having this happen on one out of my 5 box's with 2 quads,2 triples and a 2 dual-cores........and several others in my collection waiting for some repairs.

Like I said no big deal youngster (I looked at your profile )

Ok it's almost 5am......goodnight.

Jord
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RE: The other program is

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The other program is also a BOINC program (alpha)


OK, you didn't say that before now. Is it then a multi-threading program, whereby it requires use of all the CPU cores to do one task? For there is a bug about that in the 6.10 range of BOINC, a fix for it will be coming in the 6.12 versions - to be released any day now (I keep telling people this, for the past 6 months now... ;-)).

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Like I said no big deal youngster (I looked at your profile )


Looks can be deceiving. I don't call myself young; not anymore. I'm older than the BOINC developers... :P

tullio
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Only AQUA@home is

Only AQUA@home is multithreading and it won't start when the BOINC alpha project Magic speaks of is running, so I have to suspend it in order to give AQUA a chance.
Tullio

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