new web site beta
13 Aug 2013 15:44:25 UTC
Topic 197134
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I recently got an email inviting me to try out the new web site beta test. It noted that I was asked because I either run Albert (I don't) or am one of the top 100 users of the Einstein message forums. I find that to be a scary thought.
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
new web site beta
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Likewise. Not an ALBERT@home member, nor have I posted a lot of messages in the course of the years. As well as this invitation is 'flattering' by itself, the simple fact, that only a few dozen posts (more or less) put someone in the TOP 100 users of such a BIG project, raises - at least by me - some (uncomfortable) thoughts and questions.
I'll try not to be so unclear and vague and say it loudly:
If those facts 'hold', then the member community, which actually wishes to participate AND in the process ALSO learn something new, must be much smaller, than I thought (not to say TINY).
“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. So is a lot.” - Albert EINSTEIN
Hi, The email
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Hi,
The email read:
In both cases "active" means, you have returned at least one computing task during the last month to Albert@Home or Einstein@Home, respectively. We also selected only those volunteers who have not opted-out of us contacting them (see your preferences).
For Einstein@Home we further limited the set of volunteers selected above by ranking them by their number of forum posts in the past 12 months, removing in advance those from the set we already selected for Albert@Home.
After all these reductions the highest post count was 167 and the lowest was 6. That should explain why even volunteers with a fairly low number of posts, like yourself, ended up on the list.
HTH,
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project
Hi! Thank You for the
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Hi!
Thank You for the explanation.
Now it makes a little more sense why EXACTLY I (among so many others) was also selected, by knowing the actual method by which the calculation was done.
Denis
“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. So is a lot.” - Albert EINSTEIN
RE: Hi, The email
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Okay, thanks, that helps me understand it a little. Excluding the opt-outs would reduce the set some. It didn't occur to me that you would also exclude from the Einstein set those who were counted in because they're in the Albert set; I'll bet a lot of the most prolific posters in Einstein are also Albert users.
I just checked my account. Before this inquiry yesterday, I had 39 posts in the last ~290 days, so I guess that puts me in the lower third of the pack.
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
I got the invitation, but
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I got the invitation, but when I follow the link and provide login credentials (the same ones I use on both Albert@home and Einstein@home), I got the reply
This was both shortly after I received the invitation, and also just a moment ago.
Are others able to log in?
RE: I got the invitation,
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Yep, login works for me. I also had a quick look and your account seems fine (same email address as on albert). Maybe you got a typo somewhere? If all else fails, try a password reset.
HTH,
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project
RE: I got the invitation,
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I am not able to log in. Does it want an E&H login or a Albert login?
RE: Does it want an E&H
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Albert.
Apropos, I am not returning to the test.
RE: Does it want an E&H
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As Jord already pointed out, you need to sign in using your account at Albert@Home, if you already got one. If you don't, you may attach your BOINC client to http://albert.phys.uwm.edu to create one. Otherwise you may just have a (limited) look around to see what's there without being logged in.
Cheers,
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project
Oliver Bock wrote:I also had
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Changing the password did not help.
But in doing so I think I spotted the problem, which you may wish to adjust. It appears that the beta is case-sensitive on the email address provided as login credential.
[actual email address removed, as advised]
But in checking the Albert account page on my way in and out to changing my password (which did not fix my beta problem), I noticed that the web page listed it in all lower case
When I supplied my credentials to the beta test login that way, they were accepted.
Since most systems process email addresses in case insensitive manner for most purposes, you may have fewer puzzled users if you make the beta be case-insensitive for the email address provided (I do understand that passwords are almost also case-sensitive, and don't advocate changing that behavior).
I believe the previous web software used at both Einstein and Albert was case-insensitive for the user email component of login credentials.