But, this is the way I saw cycles play out in the past. A spate of work ... then a pause, then trickles of work for a bit as they cleaned up those WU that had been issued and not returned or that did not gain consensus. The reason for the dragging on is the time it took to timeout on the last work issued.
*IF* I am correct, we should be coming to the end soon ... but, remember, for some of the more difficult WU (tasks now I guess), they may issue them 3-4 times above and beyond the initial quorum before they can get consensus or hit the max limit. And each re-issue has the same spread between issue and deadline ...
So, the work can, excuse the CPDN pun, trickle out for some time ...
For me it was nice to get more work from the project that most interested me of all ... though it does not look like they made any progress on developing a follow on project once the LHC is up and running...
Of course, in the long run it likely would not have mattered much as I am slowly going all Mac and they don't do Mac ... such is life ...
But, still, you are right, a message would be nice, and polite ...
I've picked up about 4 CPU-days of work across two machines this morning - all of them the long-running, 1,000,000 circuit variety. Looking at the task names, they don't match any of the sequences from my recent log files, and they all seem to be part of the usual initial replication of 5 that LHC uses.
So I don't think the mouldy/resend theory stacks up: this is new work that is being issued.
Which makes it all the more curious that it's still hidden behind the 'down for maintainance' banner. I generally subscribe to the 'cockup' rather then the 'conspiracy' theory, but it would be nice to get to the bottom of it.
Neasan and Alex have setup the Scientists to post the new work directly to the website so that they don't really have to pay attention any more. They put up a temporary banner while they made some changes. They've now gone on holidays and forgotten to open the front doors again. However the tradesman's entrance is still operational :-).
Junk science forum shoppers, already in the standard pre-set victim role, complaining because they can ( odd that they want to be paid for saving mankind ). Prideful paranoia seeps from the document with almost Pythonesque medieval logic ( duck weights anyone .. ). The criticism of NEPA as being 'arbitrary and capricious' is particularly cute, a classic anticipatory rebuff. Has Area 51 lost it's cachet or what?
It will incidentally be an excellent test of the credibility of the US legal system ..... probably a bell-weather for future projects. As someone is going to do these experiments regardless, then maybe the US civil research industry will ( join the long trail of other industries to... ) leave US shores. Should we anticipate a deal to pay them to go away?
A sign of the times .... alas.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Junk science forum shoppers, already in the standard pre-set victim role, complaining because they can ( odd that they want to be paid for saving mankind ). Prideful paranoia seeps from the document with almost Pythonesque medieval logic ( duck weights anyone .. ). The criticism of NEPA as being 'arbitrary and capricious' is particularly cute, a classic anticipatory rebuff. Has Area 51 lost it's cachet or what?
It will incidentally be an excellent test of the credibility of the US legal system ..... probably a bell-weather for future projects. As someone is going to do these experiments regardless, then maybe the US civil research industry will ( join the long trail of other industries to... ) leave US shores. Should we anticipate a deal to pay them to go away?
A sign of the times .... alas.
Cheers, Mike.
Do you really want to put any faith in our legal system? I mean, really. . .
Our legal system. . .
. . .found O.J. innocent.
. . .made McDonalds pay millions of dollars to a woman because they didn't warn her that her coffee was hot, and she burned herself as a result.
. . .has put numerous doctors out of business due to junk science medical cases that have driven malpractice insurance premiums sky-high.
"Credibility" and "U.S. legal system" are two phrases that don't always belong together.
It will incidentally be an excellent test of the credibility of the US legal system ..... probably a bell-weather for future projects. As someone is going to do these experiments regardless, then maybe the US civil research industry will ( join the long trail of other industries to... ) leave US shores. Should we anticipate a deal to pay them to go away?
A sign of the times .... alas.
Cheers, Mike.
Do you really want to put any faith in our legal system? I mean, really. . .
Our legal system. . .
. . .found O.J. innocent.
. . .made McDonalds pay millions of dollars to a woman because they didn't warn her that her coffee was hot, and she burned herself as a result.
. . .has put numerous doctors out of business due to junk science medical cases that have driven malpractice insurance premiums sky-high.
"Credibility" and "U.S. legal system" are two phrases that don't always belong together.
And BTW, thanks to the Einstein folks for allowing this thread to remain on their site!
Personally, I'm not aware of a reason not to!
Have there been issues elsewhere?
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"Credibility" and "U.S. legal system" are two phrases that don't always belong together.
Whoops, silly me, I plead the 'dumb Aussie' defence ... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
[edit] Mind you one of our Medical Boards, run by the 'clever people', recently validated a complaint from a patient ( on the floor, with a broken hip ), against the doctor who attended but then left the private property after being told by said patient to : "F*** off you black b*****rd!" - merely upon opening the front door. The issue of whether the patient had contributed to a further six hours of their discomfort by such behaviour was deemed inappropriate to discuss at the hearing. Alas the name of the patient was supressed ( but not the doctor's ), which is sad because it will be difficult to predict this patient's needs on future occasions. ( It is possible they may be inadvertently assigned the wrong colored doctor by a locum service, say ). I feel this case has more life yet. There are moves afoot to require medical board members to attend all such traumatic occasions in order to personally partake of the caring activities as might be ministered. So in leading by example and taking individual liability in the matter they can illuminate the evident error of the ways of miscreant medicos.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I grant you, I have been gone
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I grant you, I have been gone a long time.
But, this is the way I saw cycles play out in the past. A spate of work ... then a pause, then trickles of work for a bit as they cleaned up those WU that had been issued and not returned or that did not gain consensus. The reason for the dragging on is the time it took to timeout on the last work issued.
*IF* I am correct, we should be coming to the end soon ... but, remember, for some of the more difficult WU (tasks now I guess), they may issue them 3-4 times above and beyond the initial quorum before they can get consensus or hit the max limit. And each re-issue has the same spread between issue and deadline ...
So, the work can, excuse the CPDN pun, trickle out for some time ...
For me it was nice to get more work from the project that most interested me of all ... though it does not look like they made any progress on developing a follow on project once the LHC is up and running...
Of course, in the long run it likely would not have mattered much as I am slowly going all Mac and they don't do Mac ... such is life ...
But, still, you are right, a message would be nice, and polite ...
I've picked up about 4
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I've picked up about 4 CPU-days of work across two machines this morning - all of them the long-running, 1,000,000 circuit variety. Looking at the task names, they don't match any of the sequences from my recent log files, and they all seem to be part of the usual initial replication of 5 that LHC uses.
So I don't think the mouldy/resend theory stacks up: this is new work that is being issued.
Which makes it all the more curious that it's still hidden behind the 'down for maintainance' banner. I generally subscribe to the 'cockup' rather then the 'conspiracy' theory, but it would be nice to get to the bottom of it.
My sentiments
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My sentiments exactly.
Neasan and Alex have setup the Scientists to post the new work directly to the website so that they don't really have to pay attention any more. They put up a temporary banner while they made some changes. They've now gone on holidays and forgotten to open the front doors again. However the tradesman's entrance is still operational :-).
Cheers,
Gary.
Here's a snippet from the
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Here's a snippet from the complaint/restraining order against CERN et al
The entire complaint/restraining order in *.doc format is here:
COMPLAINT FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER, PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION, AND PERMANENT INJUNCTION
RE: Here's a snippet from
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Junk science forum shoppers, already in the standard pre-set victim role, complaining because they can ( odd that they want to be paid for saving mankind ). Prideful paranoia seeps from the document with almost Pythonesque medieval logic ( duck weights anyone .. ). The criticism of NEPA as being 'arbitrary and capricious' is particularly cute, a classic anticipatory rebuff. Has Area 51 lost it's cachet or what?
It will incidentally be an excellent test of the credibility of the US legal system ..... probably a bell-weather for future projects. As someone is going to do these experiments regardless, then maybe the US civil research industry will ( join the long trail of other industries to... ) leave US shores. Should we anticipate a deal to pay them to go away?
A sign of the times .... alas.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
RE: RE: Here's a snippet
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Do you really want to put any faith in our legal system? I mean, really. . .
Our legal system. . .
. . .found O.J. innocent.
. . .made McDonalds pay millions of dollars to a woman because they didn't warn her that her coffee was hot, and she burned herself as a result.
. . .has put numerous doctors out of business due to junk science medical cases that have driven malpractice insurance premiums sky-high.
"Credibility" and "U.S. legal system" are two phrases that don't always belong together.
RE: RE: It will
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Also consider how long lawsuits can drag out...
Keep LHC going! Who
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Keep LHC going!
Who knows... The McDonalds down the street might become "The Resturant at the End of the Universe"!
I wonder if it's time to say "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish!" to the LHC project.....
I think I'll keep checking on the project for awhile, and it does seem that work keeps coming...
And BTW, thanks to the Einstein folks for allowing this thread to remain on their site!
RE: And BTW, thanks to the
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Personally, I'm not aware of a reason not to!
Have there been issues elsewhere?
Whoops, silly me, I plead the 'dumb Aussie' defence ... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
[edit] Mind you one of our Medical Boards, run by the 'clever people', recently validated a complaint from a patient ( on the floor, with a broken hip ), against the doctor who attended but then left the private property after being told by said patient to : "F*** off you black b*****rd!" - merely upon opening the front door. The issue of whether the patient had contributed to a further six hours of their discomfort by such behaviour was deemed inappropriate to discuss at the hearing. Alas the name of the patient was supressed ( but not the doctor's ), which is sad because it will be difficult to predict this patient's needs on future occasions. ( It is possible they may be inadvertently assigned the wrong colored doctor by a locum service, say ). I feel this case has more life yet. There are moves afoot to require medical board members to attend all such traumatic occasions in order to personally partake of the caring activities as might be ministered. So in leading by example and taking individual liability in the matter they can illuminate the evident error of the ways of miscreant medicos.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
RE: RE: And BTW, thanks
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on other projects there have been a moderator or two which gets a bit strict about non project posts...
And it never hurts to say thanks!