I have 64 MB Ram

Eric B.
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Yet I can not run SETI@HOME. it says i only have 63.50(1/28/2006 8:53:11 AM||Memory: 63.50 MB physical, 937.56 MB virtual) and You ned 64 to run the work. Why is it saying that I dont have enough??

J D K
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I have 64 MB Ram

Because you need 64 free after windows loads and you do not......

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Well, the discrepency is too

Well, the discrepency is too small to be due to onboard gfx or something of the sort, but 2 possibilities. There's an estimate being made wrt your memory modules, and the actual memory isn't an exact value. Or perhaps when the system POSTs, all the memory isn't checking OK, and therefore it only reports what the BIOS found to be good, upon a system diagnostic. Hopefully it's not the second possibility, as when memory starts to go bad, it doesn't just end there...

How much RAM is being reported by the BIOS itself, when you enter system setup? Upon booting, depending on the motherboard and BIOS, it could be the DEL key, the F1 key, or the F2 key. If you're not sure, try them all, when you first turn your machine on, and before it goes to load anything... If it reports the value in KB, just divide the number by 1,024 (and note it's 1,024 or 2 ^ 10, and not 1,000) to get the actual value in MB

It might come up, or there might be some option for system info or the like. Does that report 64 MB, or some other value?

Honestly though, without knowing what system your running, or anything about your computer, it would be hard to say why this is occuring. Perhaps doubling your RAM to 128 MB wouldn't hurt, if it's new enough that you can still buy memory modules that it will take. Good news there, memory has become rather cheap, compared to what it used to be. I just recently got 1 GB of Corsair XMS Pro 400, at about $142, albeit there was a sale at Best Buy at the time which had it at 50% off...

Daniel Michel
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i doubled RAM on this

i doubled RAM on this computer for less than $35...added 128MB...it's about the easiest modification you can make on your computer, once you determine what type you need.

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RE: Well, the discrepency

Message 24573 in response to message 24571

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Well, the discrepency is too small to be due to onboard gfx or something of the sort, but 2 possibilities. There's an estimate being made wrt your memory modules, and the actual memory isn't an exact value. Or perhaps when the system POSTs, all the memory isn't checking OK, and therefore it only reports what the BIOS found to be good, upon a system diagnostic. Hopefully it's not the second possibility, as when memory starts to go bad, it doesn't just end there...

How much RAM is being reported by the BIOS itself, when you enter system setup? Upon booting, depending on the motherboard and BIOS, it could be the DEL key, the F1 key, or the F2 key. If you're not sure, try them all, when you first turn your machine on, and before it goes to load anything... If it reports the value in KB, just divide the number by 1,024 (and note it's 1,024 or 2 ^ 10, and not 1,000) to get the actual value in MB

It might come up, or there might be some option for system info or the like. Does that report 64 MB, or some other value?

Honestly though, without knowing what system your running, or anything about your computer, it would be hard to say why this is occuring. Perhaps doubling your RAM to 128 MB wouldn't hurt, if it's new enough that you can still buy memory modules that it will take. Good news there, memory has become rather cheap, compared to what it used to be. I just recently got 1 GB of Corsair XMS Pro 400, at about $142, albeit there was a sale at Best Buy at the time which had it at 50% off...

While these are all possiblities, there is one thing that is not mentioned that affects all computers and causes almost every computer that nominally has 64mb to not actually have 64mb. There are several sections of memory that are reserved for various BIOS and administrative purposes. Most notably the block between 640k and 1m is reserved for boot ROM.

The projects generally set the limit to 64*2^10 exactly, or 65536 bytes. So if any byte is not available there will not be enough memory for the project.

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The limit is most likely an

The limit is most likely an artificial one set by the client's programmers. Many projects would probably run almost as well in only 48M. The enhanced version of Seti, now in Beta, will only require 32M of free ram, allowing it to run of older machines. Considering that it will likely take 10x longer to crunch on a modern computer than the current client, you would think they would have upped the memory requirement rather than lowering it. Instead, they have decided to allow the older 64M machine to contribute to the project.

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Michael Roycraft
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Let's not kid ourselves -

Let's not kid ourselves - 64MB of RAM isn't enough for any post-Win98 OS to operate itself correctly (without hammering the swap file), let alone anything else!
My first (2000) PC was WinME, 64MB RAM, and I almost wrote a thank-you note to the person who stole it 5 months later, except that I'd just the week before added a 256MB stick that allowed it work as it was mis-designed to do.

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RE: Let's not kid ourselves

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Let's not kid ourselves - 64MB of RAM isn't enough for any post-Win98 OS to operate correctly (without hammering the swap file), let alone anything else!
My first (2001) PC was WinME, 64MB RAM, and I almost wrote a thank-you note to the person who stole it 5 months later, except that I'd just the week before added a 256MB stick that allowed it work as it was mis-designed to do.


I was given a system with ME, the first thing I did was format the drive and installed Win98 original. I consider ME to be the worst OS ever devised by Microsoft and I've used them all since DOS 5.0.
I've run Win95 and even Win98 on 32M machines, there was a lot of VM use which slowed it down, but it crunch Seti classic very well.

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