Difference between Einstein and SETI?

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SETI looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that little green creatures send.
Einstein looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that pulsars send.

Are there radical differences between SETI and Einstein methods?

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Difference between Einstein and SETI?

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SETI looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that little green creatures send.
Einstein looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that pulsars send.

Are there radical differences between SETI and Einstein methods?

I don't know any details about SETI's astropulse applications, but one difference might be that Einstein@Home's app is specialized to find pulses from a source that is in a very close orbit (orbital periods on the order of minutes or hours rather than months or years) around another body (or their common barycenter). One might think that "little green men" would also send pulses from (say) a planet or artificial satellite in orbit around a star, probably in a much wider orbit.

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RE: Are there radical

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Are there radical differences between SETI and Einstein methods?


SETI@Home tries to find artifical signs ( e.g. prime numbers ).
Einstein@Home tries to find natural ( e.g. periodical ) signals.

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RE: RE: SETI looks for

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SETI looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that little green creatures send.
Einstein looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that pulsars send.

Are there radical differences between SETI and Einstein methods?

I don't know any details about SETI's astropulse applications, but one difference might be that Einstein@Home's app is specialized to find pulses from a source that is in a very close orbit (orbital periods on the order of minutes or hours rather than months or years) around another body (or their common barycenter). One might think that "little green men" would also send pulses from (say) a planet or artificial satellite in orbit around a star, probably in a much wider orbit.

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Astropulse is looking for signals with much higher pulse repetition frequencies than Einstein, in the range of tens or hundreds of Hz.
This is the sort of signal that an alien radar, cellphone etc may possibly radiate. Of course its also the exact type of signal thats generated by the million on earth and tends to swamp the Arecibo data, even though the nearest large radar is a long way away and has been arranged not to radiate toward the telescope. SETI is experimenting with different techniques to supress this RFI.

As we know, pulsed signals sent through a large volume of space filled with gas and dust get dispersed, that is the higher frequency components arrive before lower frequencies. Unlike Einstein, Astropulse scans each workunit with a whole range of de-dispersions.

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Thank you for explanation

Thank you for explanation

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RE: SETI looks for certain

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SETI looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that little green creatures send.
Einstein looks for certain "pulses" in space noise that pulsars send.

Are there radical differences between SETI and Einstein methods?

Seti is down most of the time
Einstein is not

Sorry, I couldnt resist!

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Einstein does actually find

Einstein does actually find what it is looking for.

Couldn't resist either.

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RE: Einstein does actually

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Einstein does actually find what it is looking for.

Couldn't resist either.

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Which is the reason I give it any resource share at all instead of relegating it to purely backup status. Between the higher likelihood that something will be found and the much smaller user base, I have a much better chance of being the user who finds something. (Even if that something won't get me the worldwide fame finding ET would.)

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Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.

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