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Paul D. Buck
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RE: RE: I still don't

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I still don't get it.

And apparently you won't either as you are a master at ignoring every clear point I made.
Oh well.


Perhaps what you think is clear, isn't.

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RE: RE: RE: I still

Message 22454 in response to message 22453

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I still don't get it.

And apparently you won't either as you are a master at ignoring every clear point I made.
Oh well.


Perhaps what you think is clear, isn't.

My observation: In any communication there is "sender" and "receiver". If the sender wants the receiver to understand his/her message as intended, then the onus is on the sender.

How do you know the receiver understands the message as intended? You wait for feedback and then modify the message content as needed. You don't blame the receiver and you don't claim that your message is unmistkenly comprehensible. ...Now then, did anyone understand this gibberish? :)

Paul D. Buck
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RE: [How do you know the

Message 22455 in response to message 22454

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[How do you know the receiver understands the message as intended? You wait for feedback and then modify the message content as needed. You don't blame the receiver and you don't claim that your message is unmistkenly comprehensible. ...Now then, did anyone understand this gibberish? :)


Yes, all but the "unmistkenly" ... :)

Jim Baize
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This thread is an example of

This thread is an example of why I got fed up with reading the forums on any / every project. :( I am almost ashamed of myself for wasting my time reading this. But, it's like a train wreck, most people cannot look away, most people have to gawk. That is exactly what I did in this thread. I can't believe that people think that the Boinc Seti people "patrol" the forums of other projects with the sole purpose of chastising the classic people. Sheesh. Are the Seti/Boinc people not allowed to have a life outside of seti? Are they not allowed to participate in projects other than Seti? I'm sorry you feel so mistreated from Seti, but does your percieved mistreatment over at seti have anything to do with Einstein? LHC? Predictor? etc? NO! So why even bring it up in any of the other boards? You could continue to say, "I was treated badly therefore everyone is bad." or you could be the bigger person and say, "I feel I was treated badly, but I am going to do something good to help counteract this poor treatment of incoming classic users."

Anywho...

The users who continued to use the classic boards after they were requested / instructed to use the new Boinc boards really do not have a legitimate complaint.

I had this great big analogy written to illustrate this issue. However, I realized that I was just saying the same thing that had been said before. I realized that some people are going to complain just to hear themselves talk.

Paul has attempted to address many issues. He has taken many posts and broken them down into individual topics and addressed them. He has asked lots of questions to help clarify his understanding of what is being stated. He also makes counter-points to what is apparently be stated in the original post. Instead of taking the time to answer his questions, and absorb what is being said, then coming up with well-thought out rebuttals, the initial poster opts to run away screaming things like "cheerleader" or "you'll never understand" or whatever the catch phrase of the day happens to be. To me, it appears that some people are saying "The truth is the truth as I see it, don't confuse me with the facts."

I have long admired Paul's ability systematically disect a post, separate the issues and then concentrate on giving sound arguments without getting personal. He has a ton of data, facts, and figures that he has accumulated. Almost always, he cites his sources, beit a previous post or his own studies on his own data.

Well... I think I may have gotten on a tangent here. I'm sure that I will be branded a "cheerleader" (is that term still in use? or am I showing how long I've been out of the loop?)

Jim

Jim

Paul D. Buck
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Hi Jim. Thanks for the

Hi Jim.

Thanks for the complements.

And, yes, cheerleader is still used. Though we also have apologist as a new contender. :)

I just wish my knees were nicer ...

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RE: I just wish my knees

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I just wish my knees were nicer ...


Ah, send us a picture and let us be the judge! This I gotta see.

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RE: Yes, all but the

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Yes, all but the "unmistkenly" ... :)

Say what?! Surely you jest with me. I thought I was perfectly clear. You can't not unmistakenly misunderstand how perfectly clear "unmistakenly" is? I shall consult with Bill Clinton about this; he clearly knows what the definition of "is" is. Maybe he can enlighten you on what "unmistakenly" is, too, and you can add it to your wiki glossary for future flame wars. Harummphf! :)Cheers.

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RE: RE: RE: RE: I

Message 22460 in response to message 22454

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I still don't get it.

And apparently you won't either as you are a master at ignoring every clear point I made.
Oh well.


Perhaps what you think is clear, isn't.

My observation: In any communication there is "sender" and "receiver". If the sender wants the receiver to understand his/her message as intended, then the onus is on the sender.

How do you know the receiver understands the message as intended? You wait for feedback and then modify the message content as needed. You don't blame the receiver and you don't claim that your message is unmistkenly comprehensible. ...Now then, did anyone understand this gibberish? :)

Oh come now, read my posts. I doubt I could have stated my thoughts any more clearly. This fellow just keeps coming back with 'they didn't make you any promises, live with it'. Obviously just having some fun. I'm not a kid, I know when somebody's playing with me. None of the points I raised were actually addressed in any meaningful way, the only reason I can see for any response of this type is listed above.
I didn't expect to change the way things are, but I also didn't expect such a sneeringly childish level of nondiscussion either.
Oh yes..and to the post rating squad, be sure and - rate this post into invisibility too. A most enlightened and adult way to deal with dissenting opinion..make it invisible.

Paul D. Buck
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RE: RE: Yes, all but the

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Yes, all but the "unmistkenly" ... :)

Say what?! Surely you jest with me. I thought I was perfectly clear. You can't not unmistakenly misunderstand how perfectly clear "unmistakenly" is?


Well, no problem with "unmistakenly", I was having problems with "unmistkenly" ...

I guess it was the "kenly" part of it ... and he actually did not know what the definition of "IS" is, he was suggesting that there was more than one definition ...

as in: "it depends on what the definition of is is."

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RE: Oh come now, read my

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Oh come now, read my posts. I doubt I could have stated my thoughts any more clearly. This fellow just keeps coming back with 'they didn't make you any promises, live with it'. Obviously just having some fun. I'm not a kid, I know when somebody's playing with me.


That last part is very doubtful if you know how Paul posts. You in return haven't read his post(s), just skimmed through them. That is clear from this post you made.

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None of the points I raised were actually addressed in any meaningful way, the only reason I can see for any response of this type is listed above.


Seti lost your credits? No, they didn't. You still have them and if you give Seti time to merge their Classic and present databases, you will have all of your credits in the end, as a memento in your Seti account.

Of course, you need to fill some things in in a form, try to figure out your Classic numerical password, but hey, all of that is on the Seti website. Even a form which can figure it out for you.

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I didn't expect to change the way things are, but I also didn't expect such a sneeringly childish level of nondiscussion either.


What comes around, goes around. You get what you ask for.

But if you really want a discussion, why not go answer Paul's posts above/below, disect them and answer them bit by bit? Or do you really think that you are 67 and all of us are 13?

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