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RE: Like I keep saying, I

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Like I keep saying, I don't know why people think Linux is "all that and a bag of chips"....but I digress...

You might want to send a PM to Martin (ML1). Since he runs Mandriva, perhaps he could help...

Alternatively, Google it... ;-)


Precisely because you can delve deep into the bag o' chips and cook them any way you wish. You have the freedom to do so. You have a choice.

In any case, looks like Astro has found the quickest way out... Add some known cheap hardware that is already supported and simply get surfing! No doubt Asus or others will catch up with the new Atheros LAN chip sometime.

Aside: Mandriva does use RPMs, it's just hidden under all the fancy GUI gloss!

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Hey, it's still running this

Hey, it's still running this morning....that's a good sign. Now to figure out what all the bios setting can do(I see CPU voltag, CPU-NB voltage, DRAM voltage). (after work 12 hours from now).

Looks like I should first wait to get to the atheros site, then download the latest lan drivers, then work at building the RPM. Atleast that's my guess.

I'm collecting data now I can use for a comparison to my other AMD products.

Let's see.....$5 lan card, OR $140+ to microsoft???? Not a tough decision really. Really the frustration with Linux comes from my own ignorance, so I have to suck it up and beg for help once in a while.

Oh yeah, this is Good Friday (payday), so time to start plotting the acquisition of the rest of the Q6600 bits....

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RE: Hey, it's still running

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Hey, it's still running this morning....


You shouldn't sound sooo surprised!

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Looks like I should first wait to get to the atheros site, then download the latest lan drivers, then work at building the RPM. Atleast that's my guess.


Unless you want to start generating RPMs in general, I wouldn't bother. There's lots of other things to learn.

You may well find that a more recent kernel will include the relevant atheros module(s)...

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Let's see.....$5 lan card, OR $140+ to microsoft???? Not a tough decision really. Really the frustration with Linux comes from my own ignorance, so I have to suck it up and beg for help once in a while.


There's also freedom and choice to add into the equation. Also a freedom from certain types of intrusive software/malware.

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RE: RE: Like I keep

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Like I keep saying, I don't know why people think Linux is "all that and a bag of chips"....but I digress...

You might want to send a PM to Martin (ML1). Since he runs Mandriva, perhaps he could help...

Alternatively, Google it... ;-)


Precisely because you can delve deep into the bag o' chips and cook them any way you wish. You have the freedom to do so. You have a choice.

In any case, looks like Astro has found the quickest way out... Add some known cheap hardware that is already supported and simply get surfing! No doubt Asus or others will catch up with the new Atheros LAN chip sometime.

Assuming that the LAN chip isn't DOA, if Linux was "da bomb", then it should've just auto-configured itself to use an NE2000-compatible and told the user what had happened. Did it do that?

No.

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RE: RE: RE: Like I keep

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Quote:
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Like I keep saying, I don't know why people think Linux is "all that and a bag of chips"....but I digress...

You might want to send a PM to Martin (ML1). Since he runs Mandriva, perhaps he could help...

Alternatively, Google it... ;-)


Precisely because you can delve deep into the bag o' chips and cook them any way you wish. You have the freedom to do so. You have a choice.

In any case, looks like Astro has found the quickest way out... Add some known cheap hardware that is already supported and simply get surfing! No doubt Asus or others will catch up with the new Atheros LAN chip sometime.

Assuming that the LAN chip isn't DOA, if Linux was "da bomb", then it should've just auto-configured itself to use an NE2000-compatible and told the user what had happened. Did it do that?

No.

Yeah, Brian, you're right. After all, hardware support for Vista has been absolutely stellar.

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RE: ... if Linux was "da

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... if Linux was "da bomb", then it should've just auto-configured itself to use an NE2000-compatible and told the user what had happened. Did it do that?

No.


That all depends on what you mean by ""da bomb"".

There is no claim that Linux is the ACME in computing and Human-Computer-Interfaces.

A better claim is that you could consider Linux to be the 'ACME' of computer freedom.

You're also free to jump in there and fix whatever shortcomings. You're also free to wait for some kind soul to fix it for you. You're also free to pay someone to fix it both for you and for everyone else.

I think that the freedom bit is rather a neat idea myself.

It also seems to work rather well. Did I mention no practical viruses as compared to a certain one other OS?

I'll admit that there is great inertia for any sort of change or for new ideas and new ways. If it ain't broke 'n' all that...

Wonder why I changed over to Linux? I wonder why I didn't move over sooner!

Happy crunchin',
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RE: Yeah, Brian, you're

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Yeah, Brian, you're right. After all, hardware support for Vista has been absolutely stellar.

Justifying a shortcoming by pointing out the shortcoming of another would be called "making excuses"...

@Martin, Tony, et al:

This wasn't the intended subject of discourse in the thread, so I'm ceasing involvement beyond this point.

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Still crunching along. Last

Still crunching along. Last nite I played with the OC options. There's so many options that quite frankly I'm not sure what to do with them all. I've set the memory to run at 533 instead of 400, 2.1V, 2t, 5-5-5-15 It booted fine, ran all nite, but I don't see any difference in performance as measured by wu completion time (at boincsimap with same wu lot). So, I next adjusted the fsb from 200 to 205 but left the multiplier at auto. Auto muliplier set it at 11.5X so I'm now running at a whopping 2.3575 ghz

The M3A bios give independent voltage adjustments, that's one reason I picked it, because I hear the CPU has a V limit that's quite low before letting the smoke out. Also, that the cpu volt limitation on some boards was preventing users from enjoying dram at 1066.

Anyway, Here's the list of options and current settings if anyone can define them for me/offer suggestions: Note: the ones still set to "auto" are the ones I'm not sure of.

FSB freq - 205
PCIE freq - 100
Processor freq mult - auto
cpu-nb link speed - auto
cpu volt - 1.2
cpu-nb volt - auto
dram volt - 2.1
sb volt - auto

cpu temp as measured with a hand held IR temp gauge is 43C, Freqs measured by Ksysguard.

anyone know a good linux app for these functions?

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The previous small OC changed

The previous small OC changed my times from 45 min to high 44's.

I made a change or three. changed FSB to 208, CPU volt to 1.25, fixed cpu multi to 11.5. Ksysguard reports freg at around 2.39 ghz, calculations place it at 2.392 ghz.

Here's the current settings:

FSB freq - 208
PCIE freq - 100
Processor freq mult - 11.5X
cpu-nb link speed - auto
cpu volt - 1.25
cpu-nb volt - auto
dram volt - 2.1
sb volt - auto

temps still no higher than 44C

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For a quick temperature

For a quick temperature readout, you should always be able to use

cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature

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