Very interesting, is there a way to figure out what the gflops performance of this card would be? That pcie 1x path is good for over 2 gb/s. It also has an expansion board, hmmmm. And the price is very nice.
These SPARTAN FPGAs aren't too good for float-point calculations, but i know that a "GFLOPs performance" value doesn't say a lot about the system performance. The performance is much more depend on the skill of the programmer/developer in this case.
( A very hi-tech CPU also needs a good programmer to produce better results. )
Very interesting, is there a way to figure out what the gflops performance of this card would be? That pcie 1x path is good for over 2 gb/s. It also has an expansion board, hmmmm. And the price is very nice.
These SPARTAN FPGAs aren't too good for float-point calculations, but i know that a "GFLOPs performance" value doesn't say a lot about the system performance. The performance is much more depend on the skill of the programmer/developer in this case.
( A very hi-tech CPU also needs a good programmer to produce better results. )
I agree with you. I found an early disscusion of the clearspeed cs301 chip here http://www.nanoathome.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75&sid=bc0de7e54c4ed663922c20378d0e4472 The clearspeed rep is explaining the procedure for the code work.
How difficult would this be to do to the E@H code?, or would there need to be anything done at all?
I am trying to find one of the early cards, the CS301, for use in the workstation (dual Opteron 252s). Right now it takes about 15,600 sec/unit / cpu to complete a WU. Anyone have a rough guess as to the completion time when the CS301 is being used. The peak gflops of the 301 is 25, guessing around 13 gflops sustained.
Dear fellows BOINC crunchers,
I hope you'll forgive my stupid question, because i'm a stupid old man and a very stupid very old programmer ;-).
Here is my question:
Can I find something - either a coprocessor, or an add-on card, or even a bottled "djinn" - that can help me crunch WorkUnits for BOINC (and especially for Einstein@home)
(1) MUCH FASTER than my computers actually do
(2) for a price UNDER 1000 €/1200 $
(3) without hassle like a private power-plant, or use for liquid helium by cubic meters OR a pact with the Devil ( or something else very unpleasent ;-)
Practically speaking, given my budget of 1000 €/1200$, should I buy a new computer with Intel's 6700 Core 2 Duo or could I buy something else MORE interesting ?
I CANNOT afford to lease the new CERN grid ( too bad ).
Clearspeed accelerators were looking promising... but Akosf ( and he knows the subject much more than I do ) wasn't very hot. Same for the Spartan opteron's coprocessor :-(
As soon as somebody finds something that fits my 3 conditions... I'll try it if I can (the reserve here means that I don't have the code to compile).
With hopes
an old dinosaur ;-)
"Entia non sunt multiplicandam praeter necessitatem" (OKHAM)
Could you specify "MUCH FASTER" a bit more precisely?
Quote:
(3) without hassle like a private power-plant, or use for liquid helium by cubic meters OR a pact with the Devil ( or something else very unpleasent ;-)
What is the limit of the power consumption?
(place, noise... if they are important too)
Quote:
... but Akosf ( and he knows the subject much more than I do ) wasn't very hot.
Hm... Sorry, but i work 12-13 hours on each day (on saturday and sunday too)... So i don't have time for magical things. :(
Usually the most popular devices gives the best performance/price ratio, so i think a dozen cheap second-hand computers can offer it.
Can I find something - either a coprocessor, or an add-on card, or even a bottled "djinn" - that can help me crunch WorkUnits for BOINC (and especially for Einstein@home)
The Folding@Home team are working on a BOINC client, and a GPU core which (I think) is about an order of magnitude faster for their science app. But the release of the GPU core won't happen much before the end of the year, and will require an ATI graphics card X1nnn (I think) or later. They haven't suggested any dates for when their BOINC client will be ready though...
Can I find something - either a coprocessor, or an add-on card, or even a bottled "djinn" - that can help me crunch WorkUnits for BOINC (and especially for Einstein@home)
The Folding@Home team are working on a BOINC client, and a GPU core which (I think) is about an order of magnitude faster for their science app. But the release of the GPU core won't happen much before the end of the year, and will require an ATI graphics card X1nnn (I think) or later. They haven't suggested any dates for when their BOINC client will be ready though...
Well that didn't answer his question quite well. He asked for a BOINC project and it's obvious that Folding @ ... isn't.
Anyhow it's intersting to see the guys over at stanford having a look at gpus... seems to me as if they're ito some fancy stuff over there...
To bad it'd one of the bio projects... one of the previous 100 dozen before which ended up to nowhere and nothing useless was done... to bad.
Could you specify "MUCH FASTER" a bit more precisely?
Quote:
(3) without hassle like a private power-plant, or use for liquid helium by cubic meters OR a pact with the Devil ( or something else very unpleasent ;-)
What is the limit of the power consumption?
(place, noise... if they are important too)
Quote:
... but Akosf ( and he knows the subject much more than I do ) wasn't very hot.
Hm... Sorry, but i work 12-13 hours on each day (on saturday and sunday too)... So i don't have time for magical things. :(
Usually the most popular devices gives the best performance/price ratio, so i think a dozen cheap second-hand computers can offer it.
Thanks a lot Akosf, you're a very nice and kind soul.
I'll upgrade my athlon64 with an X2 4600.
After, I should convince my wife that I really need a fifth computer - that won't be easy, believe me :-)
"Entia non sunt multiplicandam praeter necessitatem" (OKHAM)
If I can remember correctly the 4800 runs at the same speed as the 4600 but has twice as much L1 cache so I recommend spending the little extra for the 4800.
After, I should convince my wife that I really need a fifth computer - that won't be easy, believe me :-)
Hm... I had 5 cheap computers (Duron CPUs) at home when i started the distributed computing with seti classic. Their total power consumption was under 300W/h and the noise was reduced extremely, so i could sleep in the same room for a year,... but i'm one of the biggest/fastest sleeper on the world. :)
The cost of electricity was near to my monthly income after a year so i had to sell them. :-)
RE: RE: Cheaper
)
These SPARTAN FPGAs aren't too good for float-point calculations, but i know that a "GFLOPs performance" value doesn't say a lot about the system performance. The performance is much more depend on the skill of the programmer/developer in this case.
( A very hi-tech CPU also needs a good programmer to produce better results. )
RE: RE: RE: Cheaper
)
I agree with you. I found an early disscusion of the clearspeed cs301 chip here http://www.nanoathome.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75&sid=bc0de7e54c4ed663922c20378d0e4472 The clearspeed rep is explaining the procedure for the code work.
How difficult would this be to do to the E@H code?, or would there need to be anything done at all?
I am trying to find one of the early cards, the CS301, for use in the workstation (dual Opteron 252s). Right now it takes about 15,600 sec/unit / cpu to complete a WU. Anyone have a rough guess as to the completion time when the CS301 is being used. The peak gflops of the 301 is 25, guessing around 13 gflops sustained.
Dear fellows BOINC
)
Dear fellows BOINC crunchers,
I hope you'll forgive my stupid question, because i'm a stupid old man and a very stupid very old programmer ;-).
Here is my question:
Can I find something - either a coprocessor, or an add-on card, or even a bottled "djinn" - that can help me crunch WorkUnits for BOINC (and especially for Einstein@home)
(1) MUCH FASTER than my computers actually do
(2) for a price UNDER 1000 €/1200 $
(3) without hassle like a private power-plant, or use for liquid helium by cubic meters OR a pact with the Devil ( or something else very unpleasent ;-)
Practically speaking, given my budget of 1000 €/1200$, should I buy a new computer with Intel's 6700 Core 2 Duo or could I buy something else MORE interesting ?
I CANNOT afford to lease the new CERN grid ( too bad ).
Clearspeed accelerators were looking promising... but Akosf ( and he knows the subject much more than I do ) wasn't very hot. Same for the Spartan opteron's coprocessor :-(
As soon as somebody finds something that fits my 3 conditions... I'll try it if I can (the reserve here means that I don't have the code to compile).
With hopes
an old dinosaur ;-)
"Entia non sunt multiplicandam praeter necessitatem"
(OKHAM)
Hi
)
Hi RenaudKener,
Could you specify "MUCH FASTER" a bit more precisely?
What is the limit of the power consumption?
(place, noise... if they are important too)
Hm... Sorry, but i work 12-13 hours on each day (on saturday and sunday too)... So i don't have time for magical things. :(
Usually the most popular devices gives the best performance/price ratio, so i think a dozen cheap second-hand computers can offer it.
RE: Can I find something -
)
The Folding@Home team are working on a BOINC client, and a GPU core which (I think) is about an order of magnitude faster for their science app. But the release of the GPU core won't happen much before the end of the year, and will require an ATI graphics card X1nnn (I think) or later. They haven't suggested any dates for when their BOINC client will be ready though...
RE: RE: Can I find
)
Well that didn't answer his question quite well. He asked for a BOINC project and it's obvious that Folding @ ... isn't.
Anyhow it's intersting to see the guys over at stanford having a look at gpus... seems to me as if they're ito some fancy stuff over there...
To bad it'd one of the bio projects... one of the previous 100 dozen before which ended up to nowhere and nothing useless was done... to bad.
IIRC folding is working on a
)
IIRC folding is working on a boinc client.
RE: Hi
)
Thanks a lot Akosf, you're a very nice and kind soul.
I'll upgrade my athlon64 with an X2 4600.
After, I should convince my wife that I really need a fifth computer - that won't be easy, believe me :-)
"Entia non sunt multiplicandam praeter necessitatem"
(OKHAM)
If I can remember correctly
)
If I can remember correctly the 4800 runs at the same speed as the 4600 but has twice as much L1 cache so I recommend spending the little extra for the 4800.
Steve
98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8
RE: After, I should
)
Hm... I had 5 cheap computers (Duron CPUs) at home when i started the distributed computing with seti classic. Their total power consumption was under 300W/h and the noise was reduced extremely, so i could sleep in the same room for a year,... but i'm one of the biggest/fastest sleeper on the world. :)
The cost of electricity was near to my monthly income after a year so i had to sell them. :-)