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RE: but Win10 is ALOT like

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but Win10 is ALOT like Win7 and that to me is a good thing.


I can understand that, and clearly 10 is going to be better than 8.1. But the point I was trying to make is that 8.1 is ALOT like Win7 as well, once you look beyond the start page.

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Does this mean you will have to buy an OS after that date?


This will depend on whether there's going to be some other preview, i.e. a customer preview rather than technical preview. I suppose so, because at the pace MS is still working on Win 10 it can't be releases in spring. The OEMs need a few months without new feature for stability testing and bug hunting. However, expect any free version to be limited since you're usually expected to pay for a Windows. Be it directly or included in the device price.

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RE: RE: but Win10 is ALOT

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but Win10 is ALOT like Win7 and that to me is a good thing.

I can understand that, and clearly 10 is going to be better than 8.1. But the point I was trying to make is that 8.1 is ALOT like Win7 as well, once you look beyond the start page.

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Does this mean you will have to buy an OS after that date?

This will depend on whether there's going to be some other preview, i.e. a customer preview rather than technical preview. I suppose so, because at the pace MS is still working on Win 10 it can't be releases in spring. The OEMs need a few months without new feature for stability testing and bug hunting. However, expect any free version to be limited since you're usually expected to pay for a Windows. Be it directly or included in the device price.
MrS

Windows has said, thru press releases, that Windows 10 will NOT be free for anyone other than those using Windows 8.1. That ALSO said that future upgrades will be handled thru the Windows Update feature and will be FREE.

I'm guessing that with Apple giving free OS updates and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like and user friendly, and is also free that Microsoft saw the handwriting on the wall, go free or keep trying to stop the thieves. Market share may have made the decision pretty easy as MS is losing share in everyplace they compete, including businesses.

Even MS Office is free for Iphone and Ipad(?) users now.

Someone figured out how to let XP users STILL get authorized updates on their pc's for several more years, I'm guessing Windows 7 users will get a similar 'tweak'. I'm also HOPING that Windows 10 will be in the $25 US dollar range when it comes to upgrading from Windows 7, but MS has given NO guidance that I have seen yet. With 15 pc's here at my home Windows 7 may be the last Windows product I use if it is priced in the 'normal for them' range of $150 and up!

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RE: and the pressure from

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

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RE: it is priced in the

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it is priced in the 'normal for them' range of $150 and up!


No, they can't get back to that. The updates are too frequent now for such steep prices. 8 has already been significantly cheaper than that, unless one was trying to go for a pointless uber-version.

And "8.1 with BING" is already free on tablets. Just change your default search engine, if you want to, and it's just like a normal version. Well, at first glance this looks good for consumer. On second thought this just means we're subsidizing the tablet battle via desktop sales. The same applies to the very cheap Intel tablet CPUs. However, they can ask for more money for the big systems because you can actually get work done with them.

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RE: RE: and the pressure

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

What I was trying to say is that some Linux distros look alot like Windows and aren't really that hard to use anymore for people trying to dump Windows. No more constant command line typing, there IS some still needed, but not nearly as much as 10 years ago. With all the people using Linux now there is also ALOT more online help, or at least it is easier to find now, making the transition much easier too.

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RE: RE: RE: and the

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

What I was trying to say is that some Linux distros look alot like Windows and aren't really that hard to use anymore for people trying to dump Windows. No more constant command line typing, there IS some still needed, but not nearly as much as 10 years ago. With all the people using Linux now there is also ALOT more online help, or at least it is easier to find now, making the transition much easier too.

You are absolutely correct. I was just "messing with ya". Don't take me too seriously.

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RE: RE: RE: RE: and

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

What I was trying to say is that some Linux distros look alot like Windows and aren't really that hard to use anymore for people trying to dump Windows. No more constant command line typing, there IS some still needed, but not nearly as much as 10 years ago. With all the people using Linux now there is also ALOT more online help, or at least it is easier to find now, making the transition much easier too.

You are absolutely correct. I was just "messing with ya". Don't take me too seriously.

Never do.

Anonymous

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

What I was trying to say is that some Linux distros look alot like Windows and aren't really that hard to use anymore for people trying to dump Windows. No more constant command line typing, there IS some still needed, but not nearly as much as 10 years ago. With all the people using Linux now there is also ALOT more online help, or at least it is easier to find now, making the transition much easier too.

You are absolutely correct. I was just "messing with ya". Don't take me too seriously.

Never do.

grin

Anonymous

RE: RE: RE: RE: Quote

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and the pressure from Linux, which is becoming more Windows like

QUICK!!! get the paddles (defibrillator).

What I was trying to say is that some Linux distros look alot like Windows and aren't really that hard to use anymore for people trying to dump Windows. No more constant command line typing, there IS some still needed, but not nearly as much as 10 years ago. With all the people using Linux now there is also ALOT more online help, or at least it is easier to find now, making the transition much easier too.

You are absolutely correct. I was just "messing with ya". Don't take me too seriously.

Never do.

grin

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I installed Windows 10 on a

I installed Windows 10 on a SSD and connected it to my old 780i Q6600 system. The AMD drivers seemed to work good and BOINC was able to find the OpenCL hardware okay. The one feature missing was overclocking support. AMD OverDrive was missing from the AMD control panel and the AfterBurner tool was not able to recognize any of the frequencies of the R9-290x.

Unfortunately, I think either the chipset SATA controller or SSD is failing as the system was intermittently crashing. When I switched to Linux OS, there were failure notices in the kernel log in relation to the controller. The SSD would intermittently disconnect. I did not see much runtime in Windows 10 with this project yet due to the hardware issue.

Jeroen

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