Well my favourite flying when I was young was only ever in my dreams. Interestingly... *scathe thread* ... or not ... my other half had never had one until a few weeks ago. I'd love to upgrade to learning to fly a machine though - preferably one intended for that purpose.
As to stunts - anything aerial definitely appeals to me :) I'm not sure whether that would wane as I approached ground level, but who really does until they do? And sliding. I like sliding :) in almost every direction there is.
@David: I'm glad that gobbledygook is not as intimidating as it looks. Doctors do like you to go back, even if it's just to say there's absolutely nothing wrong with you. I suspect sometimes *don't look at any Mike in particular* that it's in the hope that you might catch something in the waiting room so they're not left twiddling their thumbs the following week... but I have been known to be wrong on occasion
*look at rant advice* I think Chris has been quite busy over the last few days, Gary. I'm sure we'll hear something from him once more concrete evidence is uncovered. There is just so much so wrong it beggars belief :(((
Mikey, thank you for your post on the subject. Just the logisitics involved in entering such a hell on earth is beyond the comprehension of us lot whose instinct is to flee *pause to hug fire men and women everywhere, including retired ones* you really are an amazing lot you know :)
Have a lovely holiday, Jonathan :) Don't worry about congratulating me for my win here until you get back. It can wait
:)
I have no doctors appointments scheduled.
YAY!!!
That ought to be worth a win.
oh... *pause to have dilemma* yes...
well yes it ought oughtn't it... ;)
Glad things are looking up for you though
*wave at *
"oh" edit: I forgot to write Bill up there at the bottom. If you could pop that in yourself, maybe? ;) and while you're at it, also mention all other einsteinians too...? And Randy and Winterknight as well? Thank you!! :)
....and Betreger and TL...
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I rather think I'd feel safer in a two seater powered aircraft thanks :-)))
I used to be able to do that as well. But health checks at our age mean you spend longer talking to doctor than flying. I was often the one doing the towing at my local club. In a Piper super club up-rated with the 180hp Lycoming powerplant and a long climb propeller, to account for the extra weight of the gliders and to get them up asap.
I forgot to eat mine. I think I would have enjoyed it if I had but the hospital got into a panic because my other half's potassium level was 8.5 after a failed dialysis session today :( so they sent an ambulance to fetch him and whisked him away. Looking at it now, it's much less appetising. I think that hasn't been helped by the cats hunting a fly in its general vicinity because it's looking suspiciously rearranged too and I don't remember leaving a bottle of ketchup in the middle of it either.
I do hope you're having something nice, Kathryn :)
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Mikey, thank you for your post on the subject. Just the logisitics involved in entering such a hell on earth is beyond the comprehension of us lot whose instinct is to flee *pause to hug fire men and women everywhere, including retired ones* you really are an amazing lot you know :)
Thank you! One thing that helps ALOT is the gear f/f wear, you don't really 'feel' the heat once you get all covered up, which is ONE of the reason f/f get hurt or even die in fires as we can easily go to far and not be able to get back out again in time. The coat and pants are several layers of stuff from cloth woven with nomex to give it durability and some fire resistance, to a layer of padding to a layer of rubberized water proof stuff and then more cloth against your clothing. Nothing really special but the layers provide enough air spaces so the heat doesn't travel thru them very readily. The helmet is plastic and WILL melt but is designed to let stuff hit it and slide off providing impact resistance. Back when I started, in the late 70's as a Professional, they used to NOT give us air masks so that we HAD to open a window to breathe, thereby letting the smoke out of the building as well. NOW they do more positive pressure ventilating by opening one window on the back side of a building and putting a fan in the front door and forcing the smoke out that way. If done correctly and timely you can even ventilate it fast enough so the guys with the hose line never have to crawl because the smoke goes out as fast as they can walk. THAT'S cool when that happens!!
I still think the stunt with the A380 was foolhardy even though it was clearly not a scheduled commercial flight. The fact that it was being filmed by another aircraft or helicopter gave that away early on. The CAA would never give permission for that in the UK because of the population density and the disruption to an extremely busy airspace that it would cause. But out there things are different.
*look at rant advice* I think Chris has been quite busy over the last few days, Gary. I'm sure we'll hear something from him once more concrete evidence is uncovered. There is just so much so wrong it beggars belief :(((
It is far too early days yet as Annie says, but the main culprit seems at present to be the cladding panels, which are banned elsewhere in some countries. The fire advice to stay in ones flat was made to deal with an expected fire in a block of that type, where it is usually contained within one flat. Clearly a major fire like that should have meant a total evacuation straight away.
Would a sprinkler system have helped? It is reported that the residents apparently weren't keen on having one. Should they have been overruled? Should there be external fire escape stairs, should there be a central building evacuation alarm system, should these panels be banned? The recent refurbishment was carried out in accordance with, and met, all planning, building, and fire regulations. Are they now seen to be too lax? Many questions being asked.
The PM is being heavily criticised for not meeting victims directly after the fire. If you watched the scenes being broadcast from the site people were understandably upset and angry and grieving the loss of loved ones. Giving them a central figure of authority to shout their anger at would not have helped the situation. She would have been screamed at, sworn at maybe even spat on or assaulted, causing a major breach of the peace. Much better to visit those in hospital in a calmer atmosphere.Of course it was very easy for Corbyn to slip in and say don't worry, I'll hold this government to account over this.
We need official preliminary findings in days, not months, but meanwhile the recovery process of 70 still reported missing continues, with expectations that due to the ferocity of the fire, sadly not all people are expected to be found. That means that with the 30 already confirmed dead, we have loss of life in three figures. The building has already had to be shored up and the Fire fighters have reached the top floor, but there are still other areas they can't get to yet. There is a likelihood when the recovery operation is declared complete that it will be demolished. Hard to see it could be repaired, and who would want to live their anyway after this? But there is now also the knock on fallout effect to contend with. Everybody living in a tower block anywhere will be clamouring for their local Council to confirm that their homes are safe.
Those are my initial thoughts pending further information.
Late edit - There are reports one man says that his fridge caught fire which caused the inferno. That has yet to be officially confirmed but if found to be true, how could one fridge in one flat destroy a 24 storey tower block and kill 100 people?
Oh. Did I say that? I suppose I did :) I haven't let that stop me though. No. I've let myself get very opinionated in a sort of pre-emptive social strike. Yes. Unfortunately, where once the provision of social housing was seen as a glowing example of a society that cared, now they're just somewhere people can point a finger at and superciliously tut-tut about what is wrong with Britain today. That's what I mean when we have chats about my people and your people, Chris ;) My accent (and privileged upbringing at the cost of others) lets me slip under the radar in yours :)) whereas in my area, if people don't know me... as soon as I open my mouth, I'm confused as being a resident of a gated community who risked going out into the wilds.
A few years back some one (from Sloane square I think it was) got chatting to me in a pub. I don't know how asparagus came to be a topic, but I know it wasn't me that started it *begin slow revolution of eyes in sockets* and then a reason came up for me to mention whereabouts I live in London, and he choked into his Martini. Turns out that putting together asparagus and someone from the east end knowing what asparagus was let alone that it was edible had him mixing up his oesophagus and his trachea. Fortunately my other half returned with his south London accent and rescued me from what my good manners had exposed me to :)
edit: I have offered my front room as temporary shelter to anyone from Grenfell who might wish to take up the offer. I would have liked to do more. I think for those affected, they do need to stay close to their community, so it's unlikely the offer will lead to anything, but it's there should any of them wish to, and has been since the day after it happened.
perhaps if we had a car and I could drive them to where the latest protests are, it would have made it a more viable offer. Who knows?
yes, there have been a lot of edits... *scowl* it's because my head is only functioning in fits and starts, people...
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I am well aware that two posts in a row will cost me a round of drinks but I think Einsteinians would like to be aware of the latest significant news regarding cladding.
Government statement on cladding
Posted at12:31
There has been speculation over whether the cladding used to cover Grenfell Tower contributed to the speed at which the fire spread.
BBC Newsnight has reported that the exterior cladding on Grenfell Tower, added in 2015, had a polyethylene - or plastic - core instead of a more fireproof alternative.
Now comes a statement from the Department for Communities and Local Government: "Cladding using a composite aluminium panel with a polyethylene core would be non-compliant with current Building Regulations guidance.
"This material should not be used as cladding on buildings over 18m in height.
"We cannot comment on what type of cladding was used on the building - this will be subject to investigations."
Westway residents 'rehoused'
Posted at12:26
BBC presenter Emily Maitlis says people who have been staying in Westway sports centre, where some of the people evacuated from nearby buildings have been given shelter, have been rehoused.
Regulations in England mean that only buildings constructed since 2007 and which are taller than 30m are required to have sprinklers fitted. This requirement wasn't applied retroactively so did not apply to Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974. Existing high-rises in England must have them fitted if a fundamental change is made to the structure or use of the building.
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Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Well my favourite flying when
Well my favourite flying when I was young was only ever in my dreams. Interestingly... *scathe thread* ... or not ... my other half had never had one until a few weeks ago. I'd love to upgrade to learning to fly a machine though - preferably one intended for that purpose.
As to stunts - anything aerial definitely appeals to me :) I'm not sure whether that would wane as I approached ground level, but who really does until they do? And sliding. I like sliding :) in almost every direction there is.
@David: I'm glad that gobbledygook is not as intimidating as it looks. Doctors do like you to go back, even if it's just to say there's absolutely nothing wrong with you. I suspect sometimes *don't look at any Mike in particular* that it's in the hope that you might catch something in the waiting room so they're not left twiddling their thumbs the following week... but I have been known to be wrong on occasion
*look at rant advice* I think Chris has been quite busy over the last few days, Gary. I'm sure we'll hear something from him once more concrete evidence is uncovered. There is just so much so wrong it beggars belief :(((
Mikey, thank you for your post on the subject. Just the logisitics involved in entering such a hell on earth is beyond the comprehension of us lot whose instinct is to flee *pause to hug fire men and women everywhere, including retired ones* you really are an amazing lot you know :)
Have a lovely holiday, Jonathan :) Don't worry about congratulating me for my win here until you get back. It can wait
:)
YAY!!!
oh... *pause to have dilemma* yes...
well yes it ought oughtn't it... ;)
Glad things are looking up for you though
*wave at *
"oh" edit: I forgot to write Bill up there at the bottom. If you could pop that in yourself, maybe? ;) and while you're at it, also mention all other einsteinians too...? And Randy and Winterknight as well? Thank you!! :)
....and Betreger and TL...
Thank you!
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Popping in for another quick
Popping in for another quick win!!!
Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.
Chris S_2 wrote:I rather
I used to be able to do that as well. But health checks at our age mean you spend longer talking to doctor than flying. I was often the one doing the towing at my local club. In a Piper super club up-rated with the 180hp Lycoming powerplant and a long climb propeller, to account for the extra weight of the gliders and to get them up asap.
Back for a predinner win
Back for a predinner win
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KSMarksPsych wrote:Back for a
I forgot to eat mine. I think I would have enjoyed it if I had but the hospital got into a panic because my other half's potassium level was 8.5 after a failed dialysis session today :( so they sent an ambulance to fetch him and whisked him away. Looking at it now, it's much less appetising. I think that hasn't been helped by the cats hunting a fly in its general vicinity because it's looking suspiciously rearranged too and I don't remember leaving a bottle of ketchup in the middle of it either.
I do hope you're having something nice, Kathryn :)
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anniet wrote: Mikey, thank
Thank you! One thing that helps ALOT is the gear f/f wear, you don't really 'feel' the heat once you get all covered up, which is ONE of the reason f/f get hurt or even die in fires as we can easily go to far and not be able to get back out again in time. The coat and pants are several layers of stuff from cloth woven with nomex to give it durability and some fire resistance, to a layer of padding to a layer of rubberized water proof stuff and then more cloth against your clothing. Nothing really special but the layers provide enough air spaces so the heat doesn't travel thru them very readily. The helmet is plastic and WILL melt but is designed to let stuff hit it and slide off providing impact resistance. Back when I started, in the late 70's as a Professional, they used to NOT give us air masks so that we HAD to open a window to breathe, thereby letting the smoke out of the building as well. NOW they do more positive pressure ventilating by opening one window on the back side of a building and putting a fan in the front door and forcing the smoke out that way. If done correctly and timely you can even ventilate it fast enough so the guys with the hose line never have to crawl because the smoke goes out as fast as they can walk. THAT'S cool when that happens!!
Oh and I am now winning!!
I still think the stunt with
I still think the stunt with the A380 was foolhardy even though it was clearly not a scheduled commercial flight. The fact that it was being filmed by another aircraft or helicopter gave that away early on. The CAA would never give permission for that in the UK because of the population density and the disruption to an extremely busy airspace that it would cause. But out there things are different.
It is far too early days yet as Annie says, but the main culprit seems at present to be the cladding panels, which are banned elsewhere in some countries. The fire advice to stay in ones flat was made to deal with an expected fire in a block of that type, where it is usually contained within one flat. Clearly a major fire like that should have meant a total evacuation straight away.
Would a sprinkler system have helped? It is reported that the residents apparently weren't keen on having one. Should they have been overruled? Should there be external fire escape stairs, should there be a central building evacuation alarm system, should these panels be banned? The recent refurbishment was carried out in accordance with, and met, all planning, building, and fire regulations. Are they now seen to be too lax? Many questions being asked.
The PM is being heavily criticised for not meeting victims directly after the fire. If you watched the scenes being broadcast from the site people were understandably upset and angry and grieving the loss of loved ones. Giving them a central figure of authority to shout their anger at would not have helped the situation. She would have been screamed at, sworn at maybe even spat on or assaulted, causing a major breach of the peace. Much better to visit those in hospital in a calmer atmosphere.Of course it was very easy for Corbyn to slip in and say don't worry, I'll hold this government to account over this.
We need official preliminary findings in days, not months, but meanwhile the recovery process of 70 still reported missing continues, with expectations that due to the ferocity of the fire, sadly not all people are expected to be found. That means that with the 30 already confirmed dead, we have loss of life in three figures. The building has already had to be shored up and the Fire fighters have reached the top floor, but there are still other areas they can't get to yet. There is a likelihood when the recovery operation is declared complete that it will be demolished. Hard to see it could be repaired, and who would want to live their anyway after this? But there is now also the knock on fallout effect to contend with. Everybody living in a tower block anywhere will be clamouring for their local Council to confirm that their homes are safe.
Those are my initial thoughts pending further information.
Late edit - There are reports one man says that his fridge caught fire which caused the inferno. That has yet to be officially confirmed but if found to be true, how could one fridge in one flat destroy a 24 storey tower block and kill 100 people?
BBC
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Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
*contemplate all fraudulent
*contemplate all fraudulent claims about winning*
Rly?
*embed nose in white cloud* I think not people
:)
Oh. Did I say that? I suppose I did :) I haven't let that stop me though. No. I've let myself get very opinionated in a sort of pre-emptive social strike. Yes. Unfortunately, where once the provision of social housing was seen as a glowing example of a society that cared, now they're just somewhere people can point a finger at and superciliously tut-tut about what is wrong with Britain today. That's what I mean when we have chats about my people and your people, Chris ;) My accent (and privileged upbringing at the cost of others) lets me slip under the radar in yours :)) whereas in my area, if people don't know me... as soon as I open my mouth, I'm confused as being a resident of a gated community who risked going out into the wilds.
A few years back some one (from Sloane square I think it was) got chatting to me in a pub. I don't know how asparagus came to be a topic, but I know it wasn't me that started it *begin slow revolution of eyes in sockets* and then a reason came up for me to mention whereabouts I live in London, and he choked into his Martini. Turns out that putting together asparagus and someone from the east end knowing what asparagus was let alone that it was edible had him mixing up his oesophagus and his trachea. Fortunately my other half returned with his south London accent and rescued me from what my good manners had exposed me to :)
edit: I have offered my front room as temporary shelter to anyone from Grenfell who might wish to take up the offer. I would have liked to do more. I think for those affected, they do need to stay close to their community, so it's unlikely the offer will lead to anything, but it's there should any of them wish to, and has been since the day after it happened.
perhaps if we had a car and I could drive them to where the latest protests are, it would have made it a more viable offer. Who knows?
yes, there have been a lot of edits... *scowl* it's because my head is only functioning in fits and starts, people...
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I am well aware that two
I am well aware that two posts in a row will cost me a round of drinks but I think Einsteinians would like to be aware of the latest significant news regarding cladding.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
I am well aware that two
I saved you. You
're* are most welcome**SIGH*
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