In the future I will refrain from asking the trivial question(s) as this one unless it is detrimental to my project(s) at hand.
Don't be sorry! We're here to help and get helped, give and take. We appreciate your support to our cause so trying to help you guys is the least we can do :) Gary was just trying to give guidance into the how of asking questions such that we can answer them most effectively. Remote assistance relies on language and that's a non-trivial problem ;)
Sorry for the late reply. As for your first question: "Does the standard BOINC screensaver (BOINC logo, current task overview) work for you? If it doesn't then this indicates a general BOINC issue."
Now I am only writing about the Microsoft version. BOINC screens showing a) my statistics b) my group c) list of working units, then the answer is yes, some of the time. What I usually see is the BONIC screensaver with the Boinc screensaver loading message under the LOGO.
On occasion I also get the starsphere. However, it lasts for only a few minutes then reverts back to the BOINC LOGO with the Boinc screensaver loading message.
Now, for the second question: "Does "Show Graphics" (in the BOINC Manager) work for you? Can you toggle their fullscreen mode using [ENTER]? If so, our screensaver appears to be working."
The "Show Graphics" is always grayed out. Hitting the ENTER button simply toggles either "Show All Tasks" and "Show Active Tasks" back and forth.
I usually have one or a few open Microsoft EDGE web browsers most of the time the Windows 10 Home Edition HP ENVY notebook computer.
I will check to see what else might be working in the background that might prevent things to work.
If you have GPU's showing running in the BOINC Manager along with CPU's running also. They collide and prevent the star sphere from being loaded?
I have the following running under BOINC Manager:
1 CPU+1NVIDIA GPU
1 CPU+1Intel GPU
Two other running (Gravitational Wave search)
Two other Waiting to run (1 Gravitational Wave search and 1 Gamma-ray pulsar search)
I purged BOINC then re installed it one time selecting the Advanced tab. I then selected the run as a service and completed the installation. When I did this I was able to get BOINC to load the star sphere. Looking at the BOINC Manager window it showed that the GPU's were missing.
I understand that this wasn't the preferred setup so I once again purged the BOINC Manager and re installed it this time with taking the default settings. Now I'm back to where I began. That being a BOINC screen saver with the "BONC screensaver loading" floating across my screen but only on occasional loading the BOINC screensaver with my stats switching from my account information and the units being processed. And, of course, the "Show Graphics" button stays grayed out.
Oh, I forgot to mention that my latest post refers to my Windows 10 Home Edition only. Two of my Linux notebooks are working well as they are able to launch the Einstein@Home screensaver star sphere.
Boy, just as I finished writing my replies, well actually about 30 minutes later, I now have the Einstein@Home screensaver star sphere up on my Windows 10 Home Edition.
After I let my mouse alone for the 2 minutes (I selected this out time for BOINC Screensaver in my Windows screensaver preferences) with the floating BONIC logo with the words BOINC screensaver loading under it loads. After a short while I moved my mouse which closed the screensaver. Then I let the mouse alone again for the 2 minutes then the same screensaver loads. Within a short while the BOINC screensaver (with my participant information and the in progress units switching back and forth) loaded. Okay, so I just let this screensaver work and NOT moving my mouse. Shortly, I'd say about 10 minutes later (I didn't time this so it's an estimate) the Einstein@Home star sphere loaded.
I hit the ENTER key on my computer which caused the star sphere to quit. I already had the BOINC Manager open. I then began to select each of the running units one at a time to see if I would get one of them to show that the "Show Graphics" NOT grayed out. To my surprise one of the running units wasn't grayed out! So I clicked the "Show Graphics" button and the star sphere loaded in a separate window.
I experimented with the star sphere. I can hit the ENTER key to establish a full screen view and I can use the mouse to rotate the star sphere around. All of it appears to work for at least now.
My Windows 10 Home edition installation is still working with BOINC and the star sphere. It's a bit weird because now I just shut down my computer for the evening leaving the star sphere screensaver running in the background. Then when I start up again in the morning I open the BOINC Manager and wait a few minutes then see in any of the running units will show an un-grayed out "Show Graphics" button. So far, so good. It works!
Okay, so I just let this screensaver work and NOT moving my mouse.
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I hit the ENTER key on my computer which caused the star sphere to quit.
Erm, that is of course intentional. It's a screensaver after all. All screensavers will quit upon any manual interaction (i.e. mouse and keyboard).
Please note that there's a difference between BOINC launching its screensaver (incl. switching to any project graphics, like our) and the manual launch of the project graphics via "Show Graphics". The former doesn't allow any interaction (as it's a screensaver) while the latter does.
John Persichilli wrote:
To my surprise one of the running units wasn't grayed out! So I clicked the "Show Graphics" button and the star sphere loaded in a separate window.
I experimented with the star sphere. I can hit the ENTER key to establish a full screen view and I can use the mouse to rotate the star sphere around. All of it appears to work for at least now.
That's all perfectly normal. As I said before, not all tasks provide a graphics app. None of our GPU tasks provide a graphics app as its animation would just compete for compute cycles with the scientific computation we do. We prefer science over eye candy ;)
The star globe worked for one day and then went back to only the BOINC screensaver. I checked the "show graphics" button and it was grayed out. I let it go and suddenly the star globe come back for another day (yesterday) until about 1800, then back to grayed out "show graphics" and no star globe. Could it have to do with the change in tasks? Is there a command in each of the tasks that calls the star globe program in the screensaver?
The star globe worked for one day and then went back to only the BOINC screensaver. I checked the "show graphics" button and it was grayed out. I let it go and suddenly the star globe come back for another day (yesterday) until about 1800, then back to grayed out "show graphics" and no star globe. Could it have to do with the change in tasks? Is there a command in each of the tasks that calls the star globe program in the screensaver?
If you go to your screensaver settings window (like mine) and set it up as you choose to you will have what you want, a Star Globe that shows all of the time.
In my example, I have mine showing the Star Globe and the status' alternatively.
Could it have to do with the change in tasks? Is there a command in each of the tasks that calls the star globe program in the screensaver?
Bobby, please try and keep your discussion in a single thread (see my PM). Apart from the screensaver settings above I already pointed you to, I laid out some more relevant details in the original thread.
George wrote: I am sorry for
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Don't be sorry! We're here to help and get helped, give and take. We appreciate your support to our cause so trying to help you guys is the least we can do :) Gary was just trying to give guidance into the how of asking questions such that we can answer them most effectively. Remote assistance relies on language and that's a non-trivial problem ;)
Cheers and stay safe!
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project
Hi Oliver,Sorry for the
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Hi Oliver,
Sorry for the late reply. As for your first question: "Does the standard BOINC screensaver (BOINC logo, current task overview) work for you? If it doesn't then this indicates a general BOINC issue."
Now I am only writing about the Microsoft version. BOINC screens showing a) my statistics b) my group c) list of working units, then the answer is yes, some of the time. What I usually see is the BONIC screensaver with the Boinc screensaver loading message under the LOGO.
On occasion I also get the starsphere. However, it lasts for only a few minutes then reverts back to the BOINC LOGO with the Boinc screensaver loading message.
Now, for the second question: "Does "Show Graphics" (in the BOINC Manager) work for you? Can you toggle their fullscreen mode using [ENTER]? If so, our screensaver appears to be working."
The "Show Graphics" is always grayed out. Hitting the ENTER button simply toggles either "Show All Tasks" and "Show Active Tasks" back and forth.
I usually have one or a few open Microsoft EDGE web browsers most of the time the Windows 10 Home Edition HP ENVY notebook computer.
I will check to see what else might be working in the background that might prevent things to work.
Regards,
John
So, let me understand
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So, let me understand things.
If you have GPU's showing running in the BOINC Manager along with CPU's running also. They collide and prevent the star sphere from being loaded?
I have the following running under BOINC Manager:
1 CPU+1NVIDIA GPU
1 CPU+1Intel GPU
Two other running (Gravitational Wave search)
Two other Waiting to run (1 Gravitational Wave search and 1 Gamma-ray pulsar search)
I purged BOINC then re installed it one time selecting the Advanced tab. I then selected the run as a service and completed the installation. When I did this I was able to get BOINC to load the star sphere. Looking at the BOINC Manager window it showed that the GPU's were missing.
I understand that this wasn't the preferred setup so I once again purged the BOINC Manager and re installed it this time with taking the default settings. Now I'm back to where I began. That being a BOINC screen saver with the "BONC screensaver loading" floating across my screen but only on occasional loading the BOINC screensaver with my stats switching from my account information and the units being processed. And, of course, the "Show Graphics" button stays grayed out.
Oh, I forgot to mention that
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Oh, I forgot to mention that my latest post refers to my Windows 10 Home Edition only. Two of my Linux notebooks are working well as they are able to launch the Einstein@Home screensaver star sphere.
Boy, just as I finished
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Boy, just as I finished writing my replies, well actually about 30 minutes later, I now have the Einstein@Home screensaver star sphere up on my Windows 10 Home Edition.
After I let my mouse alone for the 2 minutes (I selected this out time for BOINC Screensaver in my Windows screensaver preferences) with the floating BONIC logo with the words BOINC screensaver loading under it loads. After a short while I moved my mouse which closed the screensaver. Then I let the mouse alone again for the 2 minutes then the same screensaver loads. Within a short while the BOINC screensaver (with my participant information and the in progress units switching back and forth) loaded. Okay, so I just let this screensaver work and NOT moving my mouse. Shortly, I'd say about 10 minutes later (I didn't time this so it's an estimate) the Einstein@Home star sphere loaded.
I hit the ENTER key on my computer which caused the star sphere to quit. I already had the BOINC Manager open. I then began to select each of the running units one at a time to see if I would get one of them to show that the "Show Graphics" NOT grayed out. To my surprise one of the running units wasn't grayed out! So I clicked the "Show Graphics" button and the star sphere loaded in a separate window.
I experimented with the star sphere. I can hit the ENTER key to establish a full screen view and I can use the mouse to rotate the star sphere around. All of it appears to work for at least now.
Any thoughts as to what is going on?
My Windows 10 Home edition
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My Windows 10 Home edition installation is still working with BOINC and the star sphere. It's a bit weird because now I just shut down my computer for the evening leaving the star sphere screensaver running in the background. Then when I start up again in the morning I open the BOINC Manager and wait a few minutes then see in any of the running units will show an un-grayed out "Show Graphics" button. So far, so good. It works!
John Persichilli
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Erm, that is of course intentional. It's a screensaver after all. All screensavers will quit upon any manual interaction (i.e. mouse and keyboard).
Please note that there's a difference between BOINC launching its screensaver (incl. switching to any project graphics, like our) and the manual launch of the project graphics via "Show Graphics". The former doesn't allow any interaction (as it's a screensaver) while the latter does.
That's all perfectly normal. As I said before, not all tasks provide a graphics app. None of our GPU tasks provide a graphics app as its animation would just compete for compute cycles with the scientific computation we do. We prefer science over eye candy ;)
Hope this helps,
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project
The star globe worked for one
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The star globe worked for one day and then went back to only the BOINC screensaver. I checked the "show graphics" button and it was grayed out. I let it go and suddenly the star globe come back for another day (yesterday) until about 1800, then back to grayed out "show graphics" and no star globe. Could it have to do with the change in tasks? Is there a command in each of the tasks that calls the star globe program in the screensaver?
Bobby
Bobby Conger wrote:The star
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If you go to your screensaver settings window (like mine) and set it up as you choose to you will have what you want, a Star Globe that shows all of the time.
In my example, I have mine showing the Star Globe and the status' alternatively.
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Bobby Conger wrote:Could it
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Bobby, please try and keep your discussion in a single thread (see my PM). Apart from the screensaver settings above I already pointed you to, I laid out some more relevant details in the original thread.
Thanks,
Oliver
Einstein@Home Project