That is the case I am trying show. The US is far, far behind even the UK as far as Internet speeds for most residents.
So no point really about trying to move large amounts of data very fast here. It can't be done with our current infrastructure. Maybe next century it will be possible.
Here in Scotland I've got 32Mbit to my house. I can pay more and get 54Mbit, then I'm at the limit of COPPER WIRE (!) to the house. Sometime this year they claim I can buy fibre to the house for £10(!) installation plus a further £10 extra a month. That I will definitely go for, it will be 1 Gbit.
But I still make my internal network way faster than that for copying files around, installing software from one computer to another etc.
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Peter, you have more than double of what I have available. 15Mbps max out of a supposed 18 Mbps ADSL2+ connection. On average, that is really only about 10Mbps consistently.
Peter, you have more than double of what I have available. 15Mbps max out of a supposed 18 Mbps ADSL2+ connection. On average, that is really only about 10Mbps consistently.
I thought America wasn't that bad. Don't you all have FTTC? Fibre to the cabinet. Fibre comes from the backbone at the exchange to a green cabinet which in my case is 300 yards away. Only the last 300 yards is copper wire. I was on ADSL about 10 years ago, I got 0.25Mbit because 5 miles is a lot of copper to the exchange.
Back in the late nineties I had a friend in America who laughed at me using a modem and said there was fast ethernet to his flat, but he was in New York City.
I take it you don't do LHC@Home? That downloads 2Gbyte files.
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Peter, you have more than double of what I have available. 15Mbps max out of a supposed 18 Mbps ADSL2+ connection. On average, that is really only about 10Mbps consistently.
I thought America wasn't that bad. Don't you all have FTTC? Fibre to the cabinet.
In a word NO, not even close, yes most new homes are getting it but even then not all of them are. And since a very LARGE chunk of America is farm land, ie rural, no company is going to spend the money to hook up 5 customers per mile. YES the Government just approved a bill to do some of that but that will be YEARS before they get it done. I live in North Carolina which has some VERY VERY poor areas and even they don't have cable AT ALL, no wires whatsoever running to the home except the really old telephone land lines and half of them have been cut. They either pay for satellite dishes or do without. ALOT of kids in America have NO access to even wifi at home so struggle to get their homework etc done let alone learn new things on the Net.
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Fibre comes from the backbone at the exchange to a green cabinet which in my case is 300 yards away. Only the last 300 yards is copper wire. I was on ADSL about 10 years ago, I got 0.25Mbit because 5 miles is a lot of copper to the exchange.
Back in the late nineties I had a friend in America who laughed at me using a modem and said there was fast ethernet to his flat, but he was in New York City.
I take it you don't do LHC@Home? That downloads 2Gbyte files.
In a word NO, not even close, yes most new homes are getting it but even then not all of them are. And since a very LARGE chunk of America is farm land, ie rural, no company is going to spend the money to hook up 5 customers per mile. YES the Government just approved a bill to do some of that but that will be YEARS before they get it done. I live in North Carolina which has some VERY VERY poor areas and even they don't have cable AT ALL, no wires whatsoever running to the home except the really old telephone land lines and half of them have been cut. They either pay for satellite dishes or do without. ALOT of kids in America have NO access to even wifi at home so struggle to get their homework etc done let alone learn new things on the Net.
to clarify, FTTC fibre to the cabinet is not fibre to your home, I don't have that. Half the country can get it if they pay. I have fibre to a green box which is shared by say 200 people. Then after that it's just standard copper phone lines, but because the distance on copper is then much shorter, I can get 54Mbit instead of 2Mbit.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
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Tom M
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Peter, you have more than double of what I have available. 15Mbps max out of a supposed 18 Mbps ADSL2+ connection. On average, that is really only about 10Mbps consistently.
I thought America wasn't that bad. Don't you all have FTTC? Fibre to the cabinet. Fibre comes from the backbone at the exchange to a green cabinet which in my case is 300 yards away. Only the last 300 yards is copper wire. I was on ADSL about 10 years ago, I got 0.25Mbit because 5 miles is a lot of copper to the exchange.
Back in the late nineties I had a friend in America who laughed at me using a modem and said there was fast ethernet to his flat, but he was in New York City.
I take it you don't do LHC@Home? That downloads 2Gbyte files.
it varies by location. some places have multi-gig available. some places only have DSL (barely faster than dial up)
I live in a suburb close to DC and have fiber run into my home. I have a 1Gb service through Verizon, which is pretty common in this area. many people who feel they don't need that much bandwidth simply pay less for less speed.
Only the big cities have fiber in the city centers. Mainly to serve business. The SouthEast of the US has the biggest influx of fiber connections based on the DSL Reports forums posts.
I have a telephone Central Office in my town of 7000 and it serves out nothing but copper lines. Not a single foot of fiber to be seen. I can't even get bonded ADSL2+ connection because there are no more pairs left to use.
Moot point as AT&T stopped offering bonded anyway even if the capacity was there. They have no intention of replacing or upgrading their wire plant until the government forces them to. And they have many lawyers.
Your system continues to perform remarkable feats of E@H RAC's for a single GPU system.
I just noticed that you are running a 3rd Generation EPYC CPU. Could you talk about your Motherboard?
Is it running PCIe gen4? Does that seem to be making a difference on your GPU crunching?
Thank you.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
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Here in Scotland I've got 32Mbit to my house. I can pay more and get 54Mbit, then I'm at the limit of COPPER WIRE (!) to the house. Sometime this year they claim I can buy fibre to the house for £10(!) installation plus a further £10 extra a month. That I will definitely go for, it will be 1 Gbit.
But I still make my internal network way faster than that for copying files around, installing software from one computer to another etc.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter, you more than double
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Peter, you have more than double of what I have available. 15Mbps max out of a supposed 18 Mbps ADSL2+ connection. On average, that is really only about 10Mbps consistently.
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I thought America wasn't that bad. Don't you all have FTTC? Fibre to the cabinet. Fibre comes from the backbone at the exchange to a green cabinet which in my case is 300 yards away. Only the last 300 yards is copper wire. I was on ADSL about 10 years ago, I got 0.25Mbit because 5 miles is a lot of copper to the exchange.
Back in the late nineties I had a friend in America who laughed at me using a modem and said there was fast ethernet to his flat, but he was in New York City.
I take it you don't do LHC@Home? That downloads 2Gbyte files.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote: Keith
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In a word NO, not even close, yes most new homes are getting it but even then not all of them are. And since a very LARGE chunk of America is farm land, ie rural, no company is going to spend the money to hook up 5 customers per mile. YES the Government just approved a bill to do some of that but that will be YEARS before they get it done. I live in North Carolina which has some VERY VERY poor areas and even they don't have cable AT ALL, no wires whatsoever running to the home except the really old telephone land lines and half of them have been cut. They either pay for satellite dishes or do without. ALOT of kids in America have NO access to even wifi at home so struggle to get their homework etc done let alone learn new things on the Net.
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to clarify, FTTC fibre to the cabinet is not fibre to your home, I don't have that. Half the country can get it if they pay. I have fibre to a green box which is shared by say 200 people. Then after that it's just standard copper phone lines, but because the distance on copper is then much shorter, I can get 54Mbit instead of 2Mbit.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
More notes on an Asus b450-F
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More notes on an Asus b450-F Strix MB.
Limited LLC makes it harder to OC a 3950x cpu reliably.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Peter Hucker wrote: Keith
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it varies by location. some places have multi-gig available. some places only have DSL (barely faster than dial up)
I live in a suburb close to DC and have fiber run into my home. I have a 1Gb service through Verizon, which is pretty common in this area. many people who feel they don't need that much bandwidth simply pay less for less speed.
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Only the big cities have
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Only the big cities have fiber in the city centers. Mainly to serve business. The SouthEast of the US has the biggest influx of fiber connections based on the DSL Reports forums posts.
I have a telephone Central Office in my town of 7000 and it serves out nothing but copper lines. Not a single foot of fiber to be seen. I can't even get bonded ADSL2+ connection because there are no more pairs left to use.
Moot point as AT&T stopped offering bonded anyway even if the capacity was there. They have no intention of replacing or upgrading their wire plant until the government forces them to. And they have many lawyers.
Ian&SteveC, Your
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Ian&SteveC,
Your system continues to perform remarkable feats of E@H RAC's for a single GPU system.
I just noticed that you are running a 3rd Generation EPYC CPU. Could you talk about your Motherboard?
Is it running PCIe gen4? Does that seem to be making a difference on your GPU crunching?
Thank you.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Tom M
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Having 13 graphics cards might help him :-)
He has some invalids though. Overclocking?
I run Gen 2 single lane on risers, but then I have slower GPUs than him.
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