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Kate Ewart
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Crazy, the one country you'd

Crazy, the one country you'd think Nazi stuff was ok and they ban it?  Shouldn't it be the other countries affected by Nazis being more upset?

Scrooge McDuck
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Kate Ewart schrieb: Crazy,

Kate Ewart wrote:

Crazy, the one country you'd think Nazi stuff was ok and they ban it?  Shouldn't it be the other countries affected by Nazis being more upset?

Not funny anymore. Authorities also banned the Nazi symbols of the 21st century "Z" and "V". Stick one of them big, visibly on the back window of your car, wear them on your shirt, paint them at public places and you'll get trouble with police and a penal order in Germany (and other countries too):

§ 140 (2) StGB (german penal code) "Public approval of crimes" ... up to 3 year prison

A relevant number of Russia Germans decorated their cars in this way and then demonstrated their support for Putin in motorcades with Russian flags in Berlin and elsewhere after Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022.

A minority of our Russia Germans still maintain a strange admiration to the dictator of their former homeland, although Soviet dictators treated their ancestors badly, which is why most of them immigrated to Germany after the dissolution of the USSR.

Kate Ewart
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Ah, so the Germans have a

Ah, so the Germans have a "don't mention the war!" rule.
https://youtu.be/Tms0yk9kqVM?t=28

Seems graffiti artists ignore the rule:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nazi+symbols+graffiti+germany&iax=images&ia=images
I wonder if they put people in jail for allowing their webpage to display a swastika to German internet users?

Politics doesn't have a right or a wrong, it has different opinions.

mikey
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Kate Ewart wrote: Ah, so the

Kate Ewart wrote:

Ah, so the Germans have a "don't mention the war!" rule.
https://youtu.be/Tms0yk9kqVM?t=28

Seems graffiti artists ignore the rule:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nazi+symbols+graffiti+germany&iax=images&ia=images
I wonder if they put people in jail for allowing their webpage to display a swastika to German internet users?

Politics doesn't have a right or a wrong, it has different opinions. 

Being the place where Hitler got his start and rose to power it's understandable why they would be sensitive to people who want to celebrate some of the most horrific things done to human beings and just want it to go away. The US tolerates people who publicly display Nazi symbols but not their acts and displays of violence towards both the Jewish people specifically and the rest of the human race in general. The 'right to peacefully protest' shall not be abridged is an American right and even groups most people find reprehensible enjoy that right.

Kate Ewart
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Indeed, voicing an opinion

Indeed, voicing an opinion should never be wrong.  Acting on the opinion is what matters.  So America got something right for once?  Oops.... Americans are a protected subspecies (the technical term for race).

Gary Charpentier
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Well https://einsteinath

Well

https://einsteinathome.org/imprint wrote:
The following provides mandatory data concerning the provider of this website, obligations with regard to data protection, as well as other important legal references involving the Internet site of Einstein@Home, a project of the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics (= einsteinathome.org, einsteinathome.de, einstein.phys.uwm.edu) as required by German law

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Kate Ewart
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More like EU law.  Dissolve

More like EU law.  Dissolve it now.  I thought a couple of Scandiwegian countries were thinking about leaving?  Norway was never in it, they have more sense.

Jinkei
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The EU comprises of what,

The EU comprises of what, historically, has been a collection of bickering nation states. Choosing to cooperate on an economic level has at least granted them some bargaining power against the bigger power blocks of this world. The EU has many faults, but thinking things will greatly improve once you remove the one level on which they managed to cooperate so far seems far fetched to me. Granted, I'm a citizen of one of the smaller members so we stand to lose more, but even we have of growing share of "exiteers". And with our (fr)enemies applying divide and conquer with increasing success, I guess we'll find out soon enough.

E pluribus unum

mikey
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Jinkei wrote: And with our

Jinkei wrote:

And with our (fr)enemies applying divide and conquer with increasing success, I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I sure hope not!!

Scrooge McDuck
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Zitat:Kate Ewart schrieb:Ah,

Quote:

Kate Ewart wrote:
Ah, so the Germans have a "don't mention the war!" rule.
https://youtu.be/Tms0yk9kqVM?t=28

No, we haven't and never had. It's the most important part in historic education; especially the holocaust—unfortunately less so a true reflection in relation to Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians. Many Germans know this vaguely when they demand to respect Russia's interests. But... in former Eastern Germany they only teached the Russian Soviet view in school: the heroic victory of communism against fascism. That was comfortable. Fascism destroyed, remaining Nazis escaped to West Germany, where they agitate against our Socialist Bloc and plan for war... communist propaganda. So in the East, the history of ancestors was taboo, only discussed in private. From 1990 history education in schools changed completely, here.

But I assume it's only the British who still regularly mention the war as a constant source for comparisons, jokes, gags, and sayings with Germans. No French, Czech, Russian, Norwegian, American does this... Strange. A soccer match against Germany? Now for the Huns! (tabloids). Just tiring. I suspect many Brits have a lack of contact with the continent. Hmm, no, that was mean. But it's an observation.

Kate Ewart wrote:
Seems graffiti artists ignore the rule:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nazi+symbols+graffiti+germany&iax=images&ia=images
I wonder if they put people in jail for allowing their webpage to display a swastika to German internet users?
Easy to post a search result, but look carefully. Some photos are from the UK, Danmark, Australia, one even from Israel. Visit Germany, you won't see such symbols. That's rare. There are idiots, their smear is removed very quickly. And no jail for depicting current reality.

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