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Higgs Boson
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What is the ETA on rewrite,

What is the ETA on rewrite, near term or longer term?

Bernd Machenschalk
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There are people already

There are people already working on it. I'd expect this to be ready about next week, but usually all that can go wrong will go wrong - so don't bet on it. Let's hope that it goes wrong before we put it on the public server.

BM

BM

Higgs Boson
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Do you need more data? Or

Do you need more data? Or shall I redirect their efforts.

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Glad to hear that the Problem

Message 5595 in response to message 5594

Glad to hear that the Problem was recognized.

I already have half a dozen Results trashed as "invalid" on my Linux Boxes so far, I was beginning to become concerned (as 4 other Projects validate all their work as correct)

wijata.com
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Yes, most people are

Yes, most people are glad.
And only one wish more. E@H, please note us when new validator is launched...
Thanx in advance.

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Hopefully, it will be

Hopefully, it will be possilbe to re-validate those results already delivered. All my procesing is on Linux.

Higgs Boson
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My Red Hat system is now

My Red Hat system is now getting credit for latest work, it still has 3 as invalid, Xandros is still all invalid. No changes made at my end.

Peter Koek
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I have joined this project

I have joined this project this week, because I am very interested in science. However my first result is "invalid". I don't understand why, if 2 computers are given the same input, it should produce the same output. I don't think the OS should have any effect, because the FPU does the calculation and not the OS. But have said this, I see lots of people complaining about invalid results with linux OS's, and I have also a linux OS. I use Redhat 9, with a 2.6.10 kernel. Therefore I think to quit this project again, because it's a waste of electricity if all results of linux OS's are marked as "invalid".

+/- 100 Watt (0.1 kW) of power is used by a PC.
1 KWh costs 0.06 euro
tax (netherlands) 0.08 euro
---------------------------
0.14 euro

24/7 for 1 year results: 365 * 24 * 0.1 * 0.14 = 122.64 euro

Lots of money, therefore I want more feedback why results are marked as "invalid".

Gary Roberts
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> Lots of money, therefore I

Message 5600 in response to message 5599

> Lots of money, therefore I want more feedback why results are marked as
> "invalid".

Have you actually read the information in this thread?? Here is what Prof Allen has already said about the very issue you are raising.

> > I guess it's time for developers to say something here. Our work (and
> CPU
> > power and energy power) is wasted this way.
> >
> developers please do something. this is an obvious bug.

We are looking into this: it appears that our validator may be setting the agreement threshold slightly too tight in some cases. This is hard to 'tune in advance' without having access to the actual results. So please be patient: one of our developers is now working on this.

Bruce

This "tight validation" problem is affecting a lot of people running linux. For more information do a keyword search for something like "linux validation" and see what you get.

Cheers,
Gary.

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Hi, > This "tight

Message 5601 in response to message 5600


Hi,

> This "tight validation" problem is affecting a lot
>of people running linux....

Not just Linux, Windows too....I've had a number of results declared invalid where two or more of the other hosts were running Linux.

Haven't had the problem recently as it seems TPTB have arranged for only machines running the same OS to crunch particular WUs - or is this perhaps coincidence?

TTFN - Pete.


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