Credit disparities

Alexandra Kastowsky
Alexandra Kastowsky
Joined: 5 May 21
Posts: 2
Credit: 55,693
RAC: 0

Hello I am very new here and

Hello
I am very new here and I want to learn.
What are the credits for?

petri33
petri33
Joined: 4 Mar 20
Posts: 117
Credit: 3,341,045,819
RAC: 0

Hi Alexandra, the credits

Hi Alexandra,

the credits are for us participants to measure how much work we have done. The credits have no value in real life. There was a rumor or joke on some project that you get a toaster when you hit one million.

Some of us compete at user, team, individual GPU or computer level who gets highest credit average.

I'm sure the credits are explained thoroughly somewhere.

 

Keith Myers
Keith Myers
Joined: 11 Feb 11
Posts: 4,779
Credit: 17,802,834,016
RAC: 3,986,708

BOINC project credits CAN

BOINC project credits CAN have ancillary real value if you also run a Gridcoin wallet.  Your GRC award is based on your relative credit magnitude against all other project participants that also run a GRC wallet.

See Gridcoin - Rewarding Volunteer Scientific Computing if you are interested.

 

Alexandra Kastowsky
Alexandra Kastowsky
Joined: 5 May 21
Posts: 2
Credit: 55,693
RAC: 0

Hi Petri33! Thanks so much

Hi Petri33!
Thanks so much for the explanation. Very complete and clear! 

Greg_BE
Greg_BE
Joined: 15 Aug 08
Posts: 90
Credit: 100,733,414
RAC: 4,528

Anyone know whats going on

Anyone know whats going on with the credits for Gravitational Wave Search for the GPU's?

My BOINC manager graph is declining despite the project showing me earning 1,000 credits per task.

How can I be declining when I am earning and if anything I should be flat lining.

I have no error tasks and 2 validations pending. So I am puzzled as to what is going on.

Harri Liljeroos
Harri Liljeroos
Joined: 10 Dec 05
Posts: 3,785
Credit: 2,954,590,354
RAC: 992,639

The current set of tasks take

The current set of tasks take considerably longer to run (LATeah4011L...) versus previous ones since end of June. The credit is still the same. This is on a GPU, I presume situation is the same for CPU tasks as well.

Ian&Steve C.
Ian&Steve C.
Joined: 19 Jan 20
Posts: 3,748
Credit: 35,688,812,761
RAC: 37,670,952

Harri Liljeroos wrote: The

Harri Liljeroos wrote:

The current set of tasks take considerably longer to run (LATeah4011L...) versus previous ones since end of June. The credit is still the same. This is on a GPU, I presume situation is the same for CPU tasks as well.

he's asking about the gravitational wave tasks on GPU.

 

the LATeah4011L tasks you're referencing are gamma ray and nothing to do with his question.

 

but to answer his question, GW tasks have always had lower credit reward. it's just the way it is. GR runs 2x faster and get's 3x the credit for an effective credit increase of over 6x in most cases. the project admins don't seem concerned or interested in normalizing credit reward between the task types.

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Harri Liljeroos
Harri Liljeroos
Joined: 10 Dec 05
Posts: 3,785
Credit: 2,954,590,354
RAC: 992,639

Ian&Steve C. wrote: Harri

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

Harri Liljeroos wrote:

The current set of tasks take considerably longer to run (LATeah4011L...) versus previous ones since end of June. The credit is still the same. This is on a GPU, I presume situation is the same for CPU tasks as well.

he's asking about the gravitational wave tasks on GPU.

 

the LATeah4011L tasks you're referencing are gamma ray and nothing to do with his question.

 

but to answer his question, GW tasks have always had lower credit reward. it's just the way it is. GR runs 2x faster and get's 3x the credit for an effective credit increase of over 6x in most cases. the project admins don't seem concerned or interested in normalizing credit reward between the task types.

Sorry about that. Didn't read careful enough.

Gary Roberts
Gary Roberts
Moderator
Joined: 9 Feb 05
Posts: 5,851
Credit: 110,926,560,694
RAC: 34,529,452

Greg_BE wrote:Anyone know

Greg_BE wrote:
Anyone know whats going on with the credits for Gravitational Wave Search for the GPU's?

There's nothing "going on" with GW task credits.  Everything is normal.  Your problem is that you're not doing very many tasks.

Take a look at your tasks list.  Your entire list shows 79 valid tasks for several weeks.  In the last 24 hours there were 5 so a rough estimate, if that rate of production were to continue, is that your RAC will eventually get down to around 5K.  You could easily work this out for yourself.

If you want a higher Einstein RAC, run more tasks.  Your equipment is certainly capable of doing so - two GTX 1080s.

Cheers,
Gary.

Gary Roberts
Gary Roberts
Moderator
Joined: 9 Feb 05
Posts: 5,851
Credit: 110,926,560,694
RAC: 34,529,452

Alexandra Kastowsky

Alexandra Kastowsky wrote:
What are the credits for?

Hi Alexandra,  welcome to the Einstein forums!

If you want to read the 'official' version of what credit is all about, take a look at this page.   The problem is that many (if not most) projects tend to do their own thing with deciding what credit to allocate.  For that reason,  the traditional explanations and calculations are largely irrelevant these days.  That page was last updated in 2013.

Since humans tend to be quite competitive, projects may try to leverage that to get people to contribute more.  I guess it should be expected that projects will use this to their own advantage, without paying much attention to the 'official' methods for allocating credit.

Cheers,
Gary.

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