It's with regret that I must relay that effective immediately the old BOINC FAQs are off line and that Neil and I decided we retire them and have its URL point to the BOINC FAQ Wiki from now on. We must do this because Neil's Mundayweb domain moved to a newer server with PHP7 and the old code of the BOINC FAQ Service can no longer cope with that. No backwards compatibility. It would also cost too much time and man power to update the old code to work with PHP7, hence our decision. All of the FAQs in the old FAQs are in the new Wiki, so nothing is lost really. Although a couple of them may not be visible, because of intensive rewrites, or waiting to be rewritten. But that will fix itself when I get to them.
Thank you for what you have done and continue to do in support of Boinc!!!
Einstein got to many projects and could never finish on time. I mean never started.
First of all, how is this message in any way related to the thread in which you posted it? Unless you are commenting on the original topic or adding relevant information, please start your own thread.
The simple answer to your problem is that you must have a work cache size that is too large for your computer to handle.
Secondly, you have completed and validated tasks that took a variety of times from less than 15 mins to over 40 mins. I guess that's the difference between the two GPUs. That difference will cause fluctuations in the DCF (duration correction factor) which may cause BOINC to over-fetch at times, particularly with overly large cache sizes. What are the settings you are using for work cache size? You have multiple days of work on hand. Einstein is quite reliable so why do you need to keep so much?
Sandman192 wrote:
I think the deadline is to short. GTX 1080Ti and 980 handle just fine.
The deadline is not too short. Why do you need more than 2 weeks to return tasks that take around 20 mins on average? Just use a sensible work cache size - maybe something like a day or two - or maybe even three if you wanted to outlast an outage that lasted for a whole weekend. That would be quite rare and not really a concern if you have other projects filling the gap.
If you want more specific information, you need to give details about all the different projects that your computer is running apart from just Einstein.
down I've paste a work that has taken 10 days by now and is not finished yet.
Is everything alright with this job or is anything wrong with my old Abacus (PC) ?
This task until now ran for 10 days. That doesn't mean it consumed 10 days of CPU time. Compare total run time ("bisherige Laufzeit: 10d 16h 05m 57s) and CPU time ("Prozessorzeit": 03h 19m 17s). Task may ran throttled, part of a core's CPU time (due to BOINC's client configuration (see preferences in BOINC manager): "Nutze höchstens xx % der CPU-Zeit") or external tools (e.g. TThrottle). Then total runtime can be a multiple of CPU time.
But the difference between total and CPU time is extreme here: 10 days vs. 3 hours. If you look at the task's progress ("Fortschritt: 99,972%"), the task is two minutes short of finishing ("Geschätzte verbleibende Zeit
00:02:25"). So I can only guess that it is stuck somehow. Seems there's no further progress. But the task does not throws an error. 10 days runtime should be way above the task's maximum runtime threshold. Normally the BOINC client should terminate such long running tasks and report an error back to the project server.
I suggest to have a look into the task's logfile (stderr.txt). The science app writes progress information into this logfile. It can be found in the BOINC client's data directory. There's a subdirectory for each scheduled task (already started ones: >0% progress). Your task runs in slot ID 1 (see: "Verzeichnis slots/1" from your task details). So the path to this (hidden) directory is:
C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\1\stderr.txt
It's possible to type the path directly into the address bar of Windows' Explorer file manager to access hidden files and directories. Alternatively you can configure Explorer to show all hidden folders/files in the preferences (Bsp.: Windows 7: "Organisieren" --> "Ordner & Suchoptionen" --> "Ansicht" --> "Versteckte Dateien und Ordner" ...).
Such logfile for BRP4G CPU tasks ("Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo,GBT,long) v1.33 (BRP4X64)") looks like this (some of mine task as example). Please note the regular time stamps at line starts. This may helps to investigate the problem.
You can also try to shutdown the BOINC client via BOINC manager. Then check in Windows' Task Manager for any remaining einstein science processes (there shouldn't any after BOINC client shutdown). They can easily be identified by their long name, e.g.: einsteinbinary_BRP4G_1.33_windows_x86_64__BRP4X64.exe.
If there's a stuck einstein process, simply kill it in Task Manager, then restart BOINC. Eventually it's a good idea to restart the whole computer instead. If this doesn't help, you can abort the task in BOINC manager. You will not loose 10days of computation but only 3:19 hours.
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If you allow other einstein users to see your computer's details (current tasks, CPU, GPU type, ...), then it's easier for them to have a look and give you informed advice in the forums.
See your account configuration at einstein's website: "Account --> Preferences --> Privacy --> "Should Einstein@Home show your computers on its website?: (YES | NO). Don't forget to "save changes" at end of website after any changes.
Jord wrote:It's with regret
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Thank you for what you have done and continue to do in support of Boinc!!!
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You’re replying to a post from nearly 7 years ago
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I did didn't I...hmmm I thought it was highlighted meaning new. Oh well the sentiment is real though very poorly timed.
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Welcome to elder life......... lol
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Einstein got to many projects and could never finish on time. I mean never started.
I think the deadline is to short. GTX 1080Ti and 980 handle just fine. All on the same computer.
CPU the AMD 7 7700X 5 GHz.
This is just a few.
Correct solution for not
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Correct solution for not returning tasks in time for ALL Boinc projects is to reduce the size of your cache.
Basic knowledge.
And why for pete's sake are you trying to run gpu tasks on the basic igpu of the cpu when you have proper discrete Nvidia gpus.
Sandman192 wrote:Einstein got
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First of all, how is this message in any way related to the thread in which you posted it? Unless you are commenting on the original topic or adding relevant information, please start your own thread.
The simple answer to your problem is that you must have a work cache size that is too large for your computer to handle.
Secondly, you have completed and validated tasks that took a variety of times from less than 15 mins to over 40 mins. I guess that's the difference between the two GPUs. That difference will cause fluctuations in the DCF (duration correction factor) which may cause BOINC to over-fetch at times, particularly with overly large cache sizes. What are the settings you are using for work cache size? You have multiple days of work on hand. Einstein is quite reliable so why do you need to keep so much?
The deadline is not too short. Why do you need more than 2 weeks to return tasks that take around 20 mins on average? Just use a sensible work cache size - maybe something like a day or two - or maybe even three if you wanted to outlast an outage that lasted for a whole weekend. That would be quite rare and not really a concern if you have other projects filling the gap.
If you want more specific information, you need to give details about all the different projects that your computer is running apart from just Einstein.
Cheers,
Gary.
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Hello to all friends.
down I've paste a work that has taken 10 days by now and is not finished yet.
Is everything alright with this job or is anything wrong with my old Abacus (PC) ?
Thank you for a short Notice.
The best for you,
KX
Ausführbare Datei
einsteinbinary_BRP4G_1.33_windows_intelx86.exe
Anwendung
Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo,GBT,long) 1.33
Name
p2030.20190119.G194.46+00.14.S.b1s0g0.00000_2952
Status
Aktiv
erhalten
04.03.2024 15:05:09
Ablaufdatum
11.03.2024 15:05:04
Geschätzter Berechnungsaufwand
140.000 GFLOPs
Prozessorzeit
03:19:07
Prozessor-Zeit seit dem letzten Checkpoint
---
bisherige Laufzeit
10d 16:05:57
Geschätzte verbleibende Zeit
00:02:25
Fortschritt
99,972%
benötigter Arbeitsspeicher
972,00 KB
Größe des Arbeitspakets
384,00 KB
Verzeichnis
slots/1
Prozess-Nr.
2556
Fortschrittsrate
0,360% pro Stunde
Ausführbare Datei
einsteinbinary_BRP4G_1.33_windows_intelx86.exe
kx schrieb:down I've paste
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This task until now ran for 10 days. That doesn't mean it consumed 10 days of CPU time. Compare total run time ("bisherige Laufzeit: 10d 16h 05m 57s) and CPU time ("Prozessorzeit": 03h 19m 17s). Task may ran throttled, part of a core's CPU time (due to BOINC's client configuration (see preferences in BOINC manager): "Nutze höchstens xx % der CPU-Zeit") or external tools (e.g. TThrottle). Then total runtime can be a multiple of CPU time.
But the difference between total and CPU time is extreme here: 10 days vs. 3 hours. If you look at the task's progress ("Fortschritt: 99,972%"), the task is two minutes short of finishing ("Geschätzte verbleibende Zeit
00:02:25"). So I can only guess that it is stuck somehow. Seems there's no further progress. But the task does not throws an error. 10 days runtime should be way above the task's maximum runtime threshold. Normally the BOINC client should terminate such long running tasks and report an error back to the project server.
I suggest to have a look into the task's logfile (stderr.txt). The science app writes progress information into this logfile. It can be found in the BOINC client's data directory. There's a subdirectory for each scheduled task (already started ones: >0% progress). Your task runs in slot ID 1 (see: "Verzeichnis slots/1" from your task details). So the path to this (hidden) directory is:
It's possible to type the path directly into the address bar of Windows' Explorer file manager to access hidden files and directories. Alternatively you can configure Explorer to show all hidden folders/files in the preferences (Bsp.: Windows 7: "Organisieren" --> "Ordner & Suchoptionen" --> "Ansicht" --> "Versteckte Dateien und Ordner" ...).
Such logfile for BRP4G CPU tasks ("Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo,GBT,long) v1.33 (BRP4X64)") looks like this (some of mine task as example). Please note the regular time stamps at line starts. This may helps to investigate the problem.
You can also try to shutdown the BOINC client via BOINC manager. Then check in Windows' Task Manager for any remaining einstein science processes (there shouldn't any after BOINC client shutdown). They can easily be identified by their long name, e.g.: einsteinbinary_BRP4G_1.33_windows_x86_64__BRP4X64.exe.
If there's a stuck einstein process, simply kill it in Task Manager, then restart BOINC. Eventually it's a good idea to restart the whole computer instead. If this doesn't help, you can abort the task in BOINC manager. You will not loose 10days of computation but only 3:19 hours.
###
If you allow other einstein users to see your computer's details (current tasks, CPU, GPU type, ...), then it's easier for them to have a look and give you informed advice in the forums.
See your account configuration at einstein's website: "Account --> Preferences --> Privacy --> "Should Einstein@Home show your computers on its website?: (YES | NO). Don't forget to "save changes" at end of website after any changes.
Ohhh, The deadline of this
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Ohhh,
The deadline of this task is exceeded ("Ablaufdatum: 11.03.2024 15:05:04").
Please abort this task (BOINC manager) as you will not get any credit for it anyway. It's already too late to report it back to einstein servers.