At Einstein I don't get any WUs for the GPU, so only FGRP5 for me at the moment.
No Windows currently here.
if you can find the download URL for the ATI/AMD version of the app. You can download it and then run that same app/binary on your Intel B580 with an app_info.xml to run it on Anonymous Platform
has been running various Einstein applications using a succession of GPUs over the years. Most recently it has been running an RTX 3060.
When it was new it was not an economy build, but long since it is not new. The CPU is i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3, which was often termed a Haswell at the time. Intel currently lists it as 4th-generation, which sounds pretty bad as they are far above the 10th by now.
The motherboard is an ASUS Z97-E/USB 3.1.
Intel suggests running a sort of compatibility checker, asserting it will tell you whether your system is acceptable. All it told me was that there were no applicable updates for my system.
A black card packed with the GPU advised me to go the Intel quickstart guide at:
This looks pretty discouraging as it only lists compatibility for generations 10 through 14 of Intel processors, does not list motherboard chipsets so old as mine, and insists that Resizable BAR support must be enabled on the motherboard.
I guessed, and saw some support online for my hope, that the various BIOS configuration requirements and suggestions were performance-affecting, and not necessary for basic function.
So I just uninstalled the Nvidia driver, powered down, removed the Nvidia GPU, and installed the B580.
The only system responses I got on powering up were some disk activity and the single motherboard beep. So no error beeps, but no pixels on the screen either. So I powered off, put the 3060 back in, ran the Nvidia installer, and breathed a sigh of relief when my system came back to life and was able to run Einstein.
Possibly this is just the symptom of trying to run this card on too old a system. Or I did something wrong, or I had the bad luck to get a bad card.
I'm not sure what to do right now. Selling it on eBay would be easy. I'd be eager to hear any suggestions as to easy and reasonably safe things I might try.
Having only 13th & 14th gen Intel CPU, limits the options for many users. Which is bad, as many are interested to get a card similar to 3060, for almost half the price!
Did anybody test it against the 3060 in similar systems?
Okay, our turn to get the B580 up and running. It has been a process- could not get it working in Linux Mint, but from what I have seen, it is not really supported yet and takes someone much more versed in linux to get it working. So, it is installed on one of the Windows 11 Pro machines. Drivers installed, recognized, etc. So, here is where I am stuck:
1. GPU recognized by BOINC
2. I understand that E@H does not have this GPU in the Intel igpu app
3. I need to change the name of the GPU in the coproc_info file to "Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 pretending to be HD Graphics 4000" based on this thread.
4. I then made the coproc_info file "read only".
5. Open BOINC and:
"1/13/2025 3:38:24 PM | | Failed to delete old coproc_info.xml. error code -110
1/13/2025 3:38:30 PM | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) Arc(TM) B580 Graphics (driver version 32.0.101.6256, device version OpenCL 3.0 NEO, 11944MB, 11944MB available, 3648 GFLOPS peak)"
I feel that it is still reading the old coproc_info file but I am somewhat stuck on what to try next.
It just means nobody can delete or change the file after you set the immutable bit.
This is the correct process to prevent coproc_info.xml from being overwritten to the Boinc client defaults and changing the file back to the stock condition.
That is why the client was still giving you the B850 name.
You change the file attributes with +/- i bit. You can't delete or modify the file again until you change the attribute back with chattr -i
Also I goofed in my first post. Use the +i to make immutable and -i to remove immutable status.
Also, I believe in the past, from my questionable memory, you needed to spoof the HD Graphics 4000 series of Intel igpus to get the app to recognize the gpu. Not sure about the 5500 series being successful.
This makes sense. The problem is that I am not sure how to do this in Windows 11 Pro. Is there something comparable?
I know that user Mumak got it to work in Windows but I am not sure he follows this thread.
Don't know much about Windows anymore. Searches say there is nothing equivalent to chattr in Windows file system. Just says you can make the file read only. But from past comments of Windows users if I remember correctly, that just prevents the file from being modified or edited. Did not prevent the file from being deleted which is what the client wants to do each time it is started.
But from your prior log output, it mentioned the client error about not being able to delete the file. So maybe the issue is not that file being immutable or read only or whatever but the attempt to spoof the card as a 5500 variant.
Also from comments about Intel discrete gpus and igpus in the past, the Intel drivers are very picky about what kernel version the drivers are matched up with.
I would PM both Ian&Steve C. and Richard Haselgrove who both have experience getting Intel gpu hardware working under both Windows and Linux and ask for assistance and hints.
I'd just PM user Mumak and ask for hints if he got it working in Windows
As always, thank you for the advice! I will play around with this more tomorrow (the spoof name) and see if I can come up with something that works.
I did PM Mumak and will see what he came up with.
Ian&Steve C, I am sure you probably read this already. Any ideas?
I will message Richard Haselgrove if we can't come up with something here. This will be a good thing to figure out since we will probably *maybe* see more Intel GPUs popping up here from Windows users.
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if you can find the download URL for the ATI/AMD version of the app. You can download it and then run that same app/binary on your Intel B580 with an app_info.xml to run it on Anonymous Platform
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Having only 13th & 14th gen Intel CPU, limits the options for many users. Which is bad, as many are interested to get a card similar to 3060, for almost half the price!
Did anybody test it against the 3060 in similar systems?
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Okay, our turn to get the
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Okay, our turn to get the B580 up and running. It has been a process- could not get it working in Linux Mint, but from what I have seen, it is not really supported yet and takes someone much more versed in linux to get it working. So, it is installed on one of the Windows 11 Pro machines. Drivers installed, recognized, etc. So, here is where I am stuck:
1. GPU recognized by BOINC
2. I understand that E@H does not have this GPU in the Intel igpu app
3. I need to change the name of the GPU in the coproc_info file to "Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 pretending to be HD Graphics 4000" based on this thread.
4. I then made the coproc_info file "read only".
5. Open BOINC and:
"1/13/2025 3:38:24 PM | | Failed to delete old coproc_info.xml. error code -110
1/13/2025 3:38:30 PM | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) Arc(TM) B580 Graphics (driver version 32.0.101.6256, device version OpenCL 3.0 NEO, 11944MB, 11944MB available, 3648 GFLOPS peak)"
I feel that it is still reading the old coproc_info file but I am somewhat stuck on what to try next.
Thanks!
Edit:
In the scheduler messages I also still see: "
When you said you made the
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When you said you made the coproc_info.xml "read only" did you mean you just set file permissions to read only in Files?
Of did you mark the file immutable after editing it to identifying the device as a HD Graphics 5500?
You have to keep the file from being deleted by the client.
chattr -i coproc_info.xml
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Yes, I did set it as read only, which was clearly incorrect. I am now understanding that is not the same as immutable.
This is an ignorant question, but what am I doing with:
chattr -i coproc_info.xml
I feel silly for such a simple question, but we are here to learn and this is definitely one of those situations!
Thanks for the help!
It just means nobody can
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It just means nobody can delete or change the file after you set the immutable bit.
This is the correct process to prevent coproc_info.xml from being overwritten to the Boinc client defaults and changing the file back to the stock condition.
That is why the client was still giving you the B850 name.
You change the file attributes with +/- i bit. You can't delete or modify the file again until you change the attribute back with chattr -i
Also I goofed in my first post. Use the +i to make immutable and -i to remove immutable status.
Read about it here. How to Make a File Unmodifiable in Linux
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Also, I believe in the past, from my questionable memory, you needed to spoof the HD Graphics 4000 series of Intel igpus to get the app to recognize the gpu. Not sure about the 5500 series being successful.
This makes sense. The problem
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This makes sense. The problem is that I am not sure how to do this in Windows 11 Pro. Is there something comparable?
I know that user Mumak got it to work in Windows but I am not sure he follows this thread.
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Don't know much about Windows anymore. Searches say there is nothing equivalent to chattr in Windows file system. Just says you can make the file read only. But from past comments of Windows users if I remember correctly, that just prevents the file from being modified or edited. Did not prevent the file from being deleted which is what the client wants to do each time it is started.
But from your prior log output, it mentioned the client error about not being able to delete the file. So maybe the issue is not that file being immutable or read only or whatever but the attempt to spoof the card as a 5500 variant.
Also from comments about Intel discrete gpus and igpus in the past, the Intel drivers are very picky about what kernel version the drivers are matched up with.
I would PM both Ian&Steve C. and Richard Haselgrove who both have experience getting Intel gpu hardware working under both Windows and Linux and ask for assistance and hints.
I'd just PM user Mumak and ask for hints if he got it working in Windows
As always, thank you for the
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As always, thank you for the advice! I will play around with this more tomorrow (the spoof name) and see if I can come up with something that works.
I did PM Mumak and will see what he came up with.
Ian&Steve C, I am sure you probably read this already. Any ideas?
I will message Richard Haselgrove if we can't come up with something here. This will be a good thing to figure out since we will probably *maybe* see more Intel GPUs popping up here from Windows users.
An Intel Graphics Preview
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An Intel Graphics Preview Stack 1.0.0 has been available for Ubuntu 24.10 since last month.
Info and download on github here.