Yes I have noticed the zero credit problem, but I didn't regard it as very important because the awarded credit is nonzero. But I will try some later version as you suggest.
Thanks,
ADDMP.
A little unrelated to the original topic, but in regards to this quote, you've probably noticed already it seems the zero credit problem has to do more with WINE than with the app. I don't think my wine computer has ever accurately reported the CPU time. However, from my experience, running wine w/s41.06 is more than twice as fast as using the linux beta app. Plus, while the Akos app under wine has a large variation of credit claimed, I've had yet to have an invalid result, where the linux beta app had about 1 in 15 results invalid.
It may screw up the credit reporting, but in the end, the science is gettin done twice as fast using wine with Akos' apps. Hopefully more optimization will get put into a future linux app so running wine is not so much faster.
But now running S40.03 the Intel HTs are clearly faster in terms of average points awarded.
ADDMP,
you should compare the CPU times used by the WUs, not the awarded credits.
One of my computers gets WUs which are also often sent out to other computers not using akosf's optimized app. So these other computers claim for example 40 credits where my computer claims 8 credits. In this way I am granted 40 credits even if my cpu time was worth only 8 credits.
Other computers of mine often get WUs which are sent to other computers also using akosf's client or the faster official beta apps. In this way these computer gets less credits awarded.
You have to compare the used CPU times directly!
Thanks, I would very much like to compare the times used by the WUs on my AMD computers vs Intel computers, but I just don't know how to make that comparison because they are never sent the same units, and I don't know how to make comparisions using different units on different computers.
I started another thread asking about "Are any albert units usable as benchmarks?", but no one responded.
I was hoping there might be some way to make comparisons between different WUs on different computers if I could make a correction based on the unit ID numbers that I can easily get. Either no one knows how to do this, or my question was so badly written that no one knew what I was a asking.
I have now changed all my computers to S4107 as was suggested to me on this thread. All I know how to do now is wait for several weeks & hope that over this long time all the random errors caused by my processing units of unknown difficulty and others processing the same units using unknown E@H executables and the bizarre irregularities of the boinc credit system will average out enough to give me an average credit for each computer that will be at least very roughly representative of the real processing power of each computer.
ADDMP
ADDMP,
you should compare the CPU times used by the WUs, not the awarded credits.
One of my computers gets WUs which are also often sent out to other computers not using akosf's optimized app. So these other computers claim for example 40 credits where my computer claims 8 credits. In this way I am granted 40 credits even if my cpu time was worth only 8 credits.
Other computers of mine often get WUs which are sent to other computers also using akosf's client or the faster official beta apps. In this way these computer gets less credits awarded.
You have to compare the used CPU times directly!
Thanks, I would very much like to compare the times used by the WUs on my AMD computers vs Intel computers, but I just don't know how to make that comparison because they are never sent the same units, and I don't know how to make comparisions using different units on different computers.
ADDMP,
there is a method to copy WUs from one system to another.
But it will take a little manual effort...
I will describe the procedure assuming you are attached to only E@H and no other project (even the process works the same).
'Project files' means:
- all files in the directory where you installed BOINC (for example c:\\program files\\BOINC) except files starting with BOINC* (4 files), files with suffix *.dll (8 files) and folder 'locale'.
All other files, especially folders 'projects', 'slots' ans all the *.xml files belong to 'Project files'.
I will name one PC the 'source' machine and the other 'target'.
1.) on Source start a new WU (or wait until an old one has just finished computation
2.) on Source Stop Boinc
3.) on Target Stop Boinc
4.) copy traget project files to a Temp-Folder
5.) copy Source project files to target
6.) on traget start BOINC but keep network activity suspended
7.) now you can start BOINC on Source also
to switch back to normal operation on traget, you have to stop Boinc on target, remove the 'project files' and restore the files saved under topic 4.)
Thanks, I would very much like to compare the times used by the WUs on my AMD computers vs Intel computers, but I just don't know how to make that comparison because they are never sent the same units, and I don't know how to make comparisions using different units on different computers.
ADDMP,
there is a method to copy WUs from one system to another.
But it will take a little manual effort...
I will describe the procedure assuming you are attached to only E@H and no other project (even the process works the same).
'Project files' means:
- all files in the directory where you installed BOINC (for example c:\\program files\\BOINC) except files starting with BOINC* (4 files), files with suffix *.dll (8 files) and folder 'locale'.
All other files, especially folders 'projects', 'slots' ans all the *.xml files belong to 'Project files'.
I will name one PC the 'source' machine and the other 'target'.
1.) on Source start a new WU (or wait until an old one has just finished computation
2.) on Source Stop Boinc
3.) on Target Stop Boinc
4.) copy traget project files to a Temp-Folder
5.) copy Source project files to target
6.) on traget start BOINC but keep network activity suspended
7.) now you can start BOINC on Source also
to switch back to normal operation on traget, you have to stop Boinc on target, remove the 'project files' and restore the files saved under topic 4.)
Udo
Hello
Just as a rough comparison, the big WUs take around 1 hour to complete on my 2.66 Intel using Aksof's latest tweak (of around 12/13 days back). I haven't had a small one for a while (the z's would be big WU are far as I know)
Thanks, I would very much like to compare the times used by the WUs on my AMD computers vs Intel computers, but I just don't know how to make that comparison because they are never sent the same units, and I don't know how to make comparisions using different units on different computers.
ADDMP,
there is a method to copy WUs from one system to another.
But it will take a little manual effort...
I will describe the procedure assuming you are attached to only E@H and no other project (even the process works the same).
'Project files' means:
- all files in the directory where you installed BOINC (for example c:\\program files\\BOINC) except files starting with BOINC* (4 files), files with suffix *.dll (8 files) and folder 'locale'.
All other files, especially folders 'projects', 'slots' ans all the *.xml files belong to 'Project files'.
I will name one PC the 'source' machine and the other 'target'.
1.) on Source start a new WU (or wait until an old one has just finished computation
2.) on Source Stop Boinc
3.) on Target Stop Boinc
4.) copy traget project files to a Temp-Folder
5.) copy Source project files to target
6.) on traget start BOINC but keep network activity suspended
7.) now you can start BOINC on Source also
to switch back to normal operation on traget, you have to stop Boinc on target, remove the 'project files' and restore the files saved under topic 4.)
Udo
Hello
Just as a rough comparison, the big WUs take around 1 hour to complete on my 2.66 Intel using Aksof's latest tweak (of around 12/13 days back). I haven't had a small one for a while (the z's would be big WU are far as I know)
RE: Yes I have noticed the
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A little unrelated to the original topic, but in regards to this quote, you've probably noticed already it seems the zero credit problem has to do more with WINE than with the app. I don't think my wine computer has ever accurately reported the CPU time. However, from my experience, running wine w/s41.06 is more than twice as fast as using the linux beta app. Plus, while the Akos app under wine has a large variation of credit claimed, I've had yet to have an invalid result, where the linux beta app had about 1 in 15 results invalid.
It may screw up the credit reporting, but in the end, the science is gettin done twice as fast using wine with Akos' apps. Hopefully more optimization will get put into a future linux app so running wine is not so much faster.
RE: But now running S40.03
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ADDMP,
you should compare the CPU times used by the WUs, not the awarded credits.
One of my computers gets WUs which are also often sent out to other computers not using akosf's optimized app. So these other computers claim for example 40 credits where my computer claims 8 credits. In this way I am granted 40 credits even if my cpu time was worth only 8 credits.
Other computers of mine often get WUs which are sent to other computers also using akosf's client or the faster official beta apps. In this way these computer gets less credits awarded.
You have to compare the used CPU times directly!
Udo
Udo
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ADDMP,
there is a method to copy WUs from one system to another.
But it will take a little manual effort...
I will describe the procedure assuming you are attached to only E@H and no other project (even the process works the same).
Definitions:
'Stop Boinc' means:
- suspend network activity
- suspend processing
- stop BOINC Client
- stop BOINC service (if running as service)
'Project files' means:
- all files in the directory where you installed BOINC (for example c:\\program files\\BOINC) except files starting with BOINC* (4 files), files with suffix *.dll (8 files) and folder 'locale'.
All other files, especially folders 'projects', 'slots' ans all the *.xml files belong to 'Project files'.
I will name one PC the 'source' machine and the other 'target'.
1.) on Source start a new WU (or wait until an old one has just finished computation
2.) on Source Stop Boinc
3.) on Target Stop Boinc
4.) copy traget project files to a Temp-Folder
5.) copy Source project files to target
6.) on traget start BOINC but keep network activity suspended
7.) now you can start BOINC on Source also
to switch back to normal operation on traget, you have to stop Boinc on target, remove the 'project files' and restore the files saved under topic 4.)
Udo
Udo
RE: RE: Thanks, I would
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Hello
Just as a rough comparison, the big WUs take around 1 hour to complete on my 2.66 Intel using Aksof's latest tweak (of around 12/13 days back). I haven't had a small one for a while (the z's would be big WU are far as I know)
Gray
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Hello
Just as a rough comparison, the big WUs take around 1 hour to complete on my 2.66 Intel using Aksof's latest tweak (of around 12/13 days back). I haven't had a small one for a while (the z's would be big WU are far as I know)
Gray
both r and z wus come in big
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both r and z wus come in big and small types. the letter refers to where the data's collected from, not it's size.