Its in general a real shame that blowercards are going out of fashion.
Its just the most effective way to remove heat from the chassis, especially with rack mounted servers.
The noise is just so you know the machine is running..... and doing work, you get used to it.
I also got my hands on couple of BC-160 cards, really interesting ones. Its like the w5700 but with 8GB HBM instead of ggdr6. Problem is that is a pain to get drivers for it because the card was never officially released.
There is a cloud GPU version called the pro V520 and its also released in the MBP 16''.
But no official windows drivers, only linux.
And i have 0 linux skills unfortunately so have not got them to work outside of a mining environment because they would be very cool to be able to use for compute.
My problem is that my origin in windows based gaming and hopeless without a gui to click on things.
Everytime i try to get something setup in linux it ends in frustration and not working.
Also have 3 amd Mi8 cards lying around also for a fun compute project but the whole getting gpu's working properly in linux is something i never seem to be able to get right.
Windows based i can make magic happen, hell i even write my own Bios for couple of workstation cards so i can have custom tuning, but when its linux and terminal its like...........
Its tough.... especially with the somewhat more exotic gpu setups
Haha the basic recipe starts out like, what linux? Uh ubuntu then maybe.
wat distro? i dont know, just the desktop,
What version? the newest?....... Oh this driver thingy is only for this older version of that distro so maybe that?
Package update..... uh oke........ done! ah everything is broken. (im exaggerating of course)
But of course it always stings a bit being confronted with you're own incompetence, especially when its done by internet people....... pun intended of course.
So the topic stayed in my head for couple days and i found a great working solution for me, the linux noob.
For my mining rig i run HiveOS, this supports every card imaginable and offers of course extreme gpu tunability including things like gpu memory timings on the fly adjustments, even from the smartphone app.
Under the hood it runs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS so i booted in the really bare bone Gui, disabled running the miners, installed boinc and it detects the gpu's and ready to run. And all other things like the incredible gpu tweak ability of the mining os still works.
The linux build will be in the near future because the pro vii system is in a mini itx case and has no room for more cards and runs so incredibly smooth.
In a week almost 2000 GW 03 tasks completed with no invalids, so really curious how it stats are after a month of running 24/7.
Also the Eth merge to 2.0 seems to be happening in august, so after that gpu mining profitability will just stop. So then i can repurpose the gpu's for einstein@home without feeling bad of missing out on a good passive income.
And o boy can i build some cool rigs when that happens xD
I am silently hoping threadripper pro 5000 will soon be available also for separate purchase instead of OEM only. Would be a dream rig.
I am silently hoping threadripper pro 5000 will soon be available also for separate purchase instead of OEM only. Would be a dream rig.
Dell is now added to the ODM list as able to make systems with the Threadripper Pro 5000 cpus along with the original ODM Lenovo.
So maybe in another 4-6 months, the cpus will be available to the the DIY crowd.
Dell and Lenovo both vendor lock their CPUs. so used pulls from those systems wont work on anything else. so you'll need to wait for retail unlocked chips to hit the market.
I guess you'll be locked into a very expensive WRX80 motherboard as well.
The original release OEM for the pro 5000 was only Lenovo, so now that dell is releasing products i'm hoping exclusive time is over and general availability for the tray cpu's will follow soon in comming weeks. (maybe foolishly optimistic)
Amd HEDT has been a mobo nightmare so far.
First x399 with only a refresh first gen.
then trx40 with no upgrade.
Now wrx80, but unfortunate i see so little movement in HEDT that this will probably be the best for quite a while. I would also love a EPYC workstation but not a single motherboard out there that has IO for workstation setup.
And Intel doesn't even show up at the party.
But when i first saw the Asus Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI i was blown away, a beauty.
But to be fair i work as video engineer and specialize in encoding and video manipulation/restoration with Neural networks. So always have a hunger for more powerful hardware and time saved is very valuable.
*here comes the excited nerd in me about specs*
My workstation has a 960gb pcie Optane 905P as boot drive with triple samsung 980 2tb nvme as main storage and a optane 900P scratch disk, but currently these optane occupy 2 out of 4 pcie slots of my 3960x. Got the RTX A6000 and only one slot that i can use for drop in GPU, depending if a certain workload of project could benefit from an AMD GPU or a second smaller card Like a A4000. currently already have ECC dims but the pro line is 8 channels so a nice bandwidth boost and higher total capacity, but mostly the additional pcie slots for extra gpu's, capture cards, optical network cards and stuff.
Its just a shame that the 5000 series don't have a 3dxcache version like the EPYC line.
Can't you solve the limited I/O on the Epyc workstation mobos with some add-in cards?
I run two Epyc workstation mobos and have no issues with the limited I/O since I really only need a keyboard and a mouse and one or two USB ports for LiveUSB sticks and a UPS cable.
Mainly use them for only BOINC crunching with as many gpus as I can stuff in them as possible.
Well if you live in a place
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Well if you live in a place that has relative cheap power you can always take them for a spin.
But will probably make a lot of noise, although i looked at some pictures online and the cooling solution does look very high end.
Can always repurpose parts for other builds from it should it be not profitable to run anymore.
Its in general a real shame
)
Its in general a real shame that blowercards are going out of fashion.
Its just the most effective way to remove heat from the chassis, especially with rack mounted servers.
The noise is just so you know the machine is running..... and doing work, you get used to it.
I also got my hands on couple of BC-160 cards, really interesting ones. Its like the w5700 but with 8GB HBM instead of ggdr6. Problem is that is a pain to get drivers for it because the card was never officially released.
There is a cloud GPU version called the pro V520 and its also released in the MBP 16''.
But no official windows drivers, only linux.
And i have 0 linux skills unfortunately so have not got them to work outside of a mining environment because they would be very cool to be able to use for compute.
If you are working with AMD
)
If you are working with AMD server cards, you should not be using the consumer card drivers.
You should be using the server based RocM drivers which would support the cards properly.
My problem is that my origin
)
My problem is that my origin in windows based gaming and hopeless without a gui to click on things.
Everytime i try to get something setup in linux it ends in frustration and not working.
Also have 3 amd Mi8 cards lying around also for a fun compute project but the whole getting gpu's working properly in linux is something i never seem to be able to get right.
Windows based i can make magic happen, hell i even write my own Bios for couple of workstation cards so i can have custom tuning, but when its linux and terminal its like...........
Its tough.... especially with the somewhat more exotic gpu setups
There are plenty of "how-to"
)
There are plenty of "how-to" guide posts in the project forums here.
Pretty basic recipes with just a couple of commands.
Haha the basic recipe starts
)
Haha the basic recipe starts out like, what linux? Uh ubuntu then maybe.
wat distro? i dont know, just the desktop,
What version? the newest?....... Oh this driver thingy is only for this older version of that distro so maybe that?
Package update..... uh oke........ done! ah everything is broken. (im exaggerating of course)
But of course it always stings a bit being confronted with you're own incompetence, especially when its done by internet people....... pun intended of course.
So the topic stayed in my head for couple days and i found a great working solution for me, the linux noob.
For my mining rig i run HiveOS, this supports every card imaginable and offers of course extreme gpu tunability including things like gpu memory timings on the fly adjustments, even from the smartphone app.
Under the hood it runs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS so i booted in the really bare bone Gui, disabled running the miners, installed boinc and it detects the gpu's and ready to run. And all other things like the incredible gpu tweak ability of the mining os still works.
The linux build will be in the near future because the pro vii system is in a mini itx case and has no room for more cards and runs so incredibly smooth.
In a week almost 2000 GW 03 tasks completed with no invalids, so really curious how it stats are after a month of running 24/7.
Also the Eth merge to 2.0 seems to be happening in august, so after that gpu mining profitability will just stop. So then i can repurpose the gpu's for einstein@home without feeling bad of missing out on a good passive income.
And o boy can i build some cool rigs when that happens xD
I am silently hoping threadripper pro 5000 will soon be available also for separate purchase instead of OEM only. Would be a dream rig.
Peter van Kalleveen wrote: I
)
Dell is now added to the ODM list as able to make systems with the Threadripper Pro 5000 cpus along with the original ODM Lenovo.
So maybe in another 4-6 months, the cpus will be available to the the DIY crowd.
Keith Myers wrote: Peter van
)
Dell and Lenovo both vendor lock their CPUs. so used pulls from those systems wont work on anything else. so you'll need to wait for retail unlocked chips to hit the market.
I guess you'll be locked into a very expensive WRX80 motherboard as well.
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Yea, the vendor lock
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Yea, the vendor lock sucks.
The original release OEM for the pro 5000 was only Lenovo, so now that dell is releasing products i'm hoping exclusive time is over and general availability for the tray cpu's will follow soon in comming weeks. (maybe foolishly optimistic)
Amd HEDT has been a mobo nightmare so far.
First x399 with only a refresh first gen.
then trx40 with no upgrade.
Now wrx80, but unfortunate i see so little movement in HEDT that this will probably be the best for quite a while. I would also love a EPYC workstation but not a single motherboard out there that has IO for workstation setup.
And Intel doesn't even show up at the party.
But when i first saw the Asus Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI i was blown away, a beauty.
But to be fair i work as video engineer and specialize in encoding and video manipulation/restoration with Neural networks. So always have a hunger for more powerful hardware and time saved is very valuable.
*here comes the excited nerd in me about specs*
My workstation has a 960gb pcie Optane 905P as boot drive with triple samsung 980 2tb nvme as main storage and a optane 900P scratch disk, but currently these optane occupy 2 out of 4 pcie slots of my 3960x. Got the RTX A6000 and only one slot that i can use for drop in GPU, depending if a certain workload of project could benefit from an AMD GPU or a second smaller card Like a A4000. currently already have ECC dims but the pro line is 8 channels so a nice bandwidth boost and higher total capacity, but mostly the additional pcie slots for extra gpu's, capture cards, optical network cards and stuff.
Its just a shame that the 5000 series don't have a 3dxcache version like the EPYC line.
Can't you solve the limited
)
Can't you solve the limited I/O on the Epyc workstation mobos with some add-in cards?
I run two Epyc workstation mobos and have no issues with the limited I/O since I really only need a keyboard and a mouse and one or two USB ports for LiveUSB sticks and a UPS cable.
Mainly use them for only BOINC crunching with as many gpus as I can stuff in them as possible.