All things Amd GPU

mountkidd
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Hi Martin, Looking at your

Hi Martin,

Looking at your recent tasks I see one valid GR at 463s (Mar 31) and every other valid GR task has been >3800s.  All tasks show as having run on your 6600, but I'm not buying that.  It looks like the Mar31 task did run on the 6600 based on the run time and I believe every other one ran on the iGPU.  The 35W and 35C temp are strong clues.  Disable the iGPU in the bios or via cc_config.xml so that only the 6600 gets used!

A windows update might have inadvertently done this to you.  Do the AMD driver install yourself with driver package from AMD direct or TechPowerUp - don't let windows make the choice for you.

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mountkidd wrote:Hi

mountkidd wrote:

Hi Martin,

Looking at your recent tasks I see one valid GR at 463s (Mar 31) and every other valid GR task has been >3800s.  All tasks show as having run on your 6600, but I'm not buying that.  It looks like the Mar31 task did run on the 6600 based on the run time and I believe every other one ran on the iGPU.  The 35W and 35C temp are strong clues.  Disable the iGPU in the bios or via cc_config.xml so that only the 6600 gets used!

A windows update might have inadvertently done this to you.  Do the AMD driver install yourself with driver package from AMD direct or TechPowerUp - don't let windows make the choice for you.

Good catch & a subsequent thought -

I don't think that CPU has an iGPU but maybe there's something on the mobo.  If it's really on the RX 6600 then it's processing clocks are working like mine where... bouncing between 0 and 300Mhz.  That might explain the long time and the low power.

If the stars align as I expect I'll get back to my RX 6600 on Monday during the daylight hours.

Skip

UPDATE:  My apologies mountkidd.   I didn't realize some the "X" CPUs are APUs... unlike the Ryzen 5 AM4 chips where I think the APUs end in "G". 

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mountkidd wrote: Hi

mountkidd wrote:

Hi Martin,

Looking at your recent tasks I see one valid GR at 463s (Mar 31) and every other valid GR task has been >3800s.  All tasks show as having run on your 6600, but I'm not buying that.  It looks like the Mar31 task did run on the 6600 based on the run time and I believe every other one ran on the iGPU.  The 35W and 35C temp are strong clues.  Disable the iGPU in the bios or via cc_config.xml so that only the 6600 gets used!

A windows update might have inadvertently done this to you.  Do the AMD driver install yourself with driver package from AMD direct or TechPowerUp - don't let windows make the choice for you.

yup, you're right. it's using the iGPU on the 7700X. and the 6600XT is sitting idle and not doing anything.

gfx1036 matches the shader ISA on the iGPU for Raphael. the 6600XT should show gfx1032. I overlooked this since they are so close and forgot that the 7700X uses an RDNA2 iGPU.

I bet BOINC detects the iGPU only because of the priority code, in combination with a lack of <use_all_gpus> argument in cc_config. (the iGPU is detected with more memory, so it's deemed to be the "better" device), or the drivers aren't installed properly. disabling the iGPU in the BIOS is the right move to help isolate the exact issue.

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Not seeing the Rx 6600 on

Not seeing the Rx 6600 on your system profile.  Just the builtin iGpu.

Tom M

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Hallo! Thank-you all for

Hallo!

Thank-you all for your answers!

I also found indications, that E@H-GPU is running indeed on the IGP. But I didn’t find the file cc_config.xml. I searched throughout the whole C-partition without any result. I’m using Win11P Version 22H2 with the newest updates and BOINC Version 7.20.2. The structure of folders in both systems has changed massively compared to Win10P. But I didn’t look for that for longer times. The folder C:/Programme/BOINC is just 23.9 MB large. In C:/Programme (X86) I didn’t find any folder that smokes like BOINC. Where also are all the task stored in spare, 2.05 GB large?

Please can anyone of you give me a tip, how to go on?

Kind regards and happy crunching

Martin

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astro-marwil

astro-marwil wrote:

Hallo!

Thank-you all for your answers!

I also found indications, that E@H-GPU is running indeed on the IGP. But I didn’t find the file cc_config.xml. I searched throughout the whole C-partition without any result. I’m using Win11P Version 22H2 with the newest updates and BOINC Version 7.20.2. The structure of folders in both systems has changed massively compared to Win10P. But I didn’t look for that for longer times. The folder C:/Programme/BOINC is just 23.9 MB large. In C:/Programme (X86) I didn’t find any folder that smokes like BOINC. Where also are all the task stored in spare, 2.05 GB large?

Please can anyone of you give me a tip, how to go on?

Kind regards and happy crunching

Martin

do as mountkidd suggested and disable the iGPU in the BIOS.

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astro-marwil

astro-marwil wrote:

Hallo!

Thank-you all for your answers!

I also found indications, that E@H-GPU is running indeed on the IGP. But I didn’t find the file cc_config.xml. I searched throughout the whole C-partition without any result. I’m using Win11P Version 22H2 with the newest updates and BOINC Version 7.20.2. The structure of folders in both systems has changed massively compared to Win10P. But I didn’t look for that for longer times. The folder C:/Programme/BOINC is just 23.9 MB large. In C:/Programme (X86) I didn’t find any folder that smokes like BOINC. Where also are all the task stored in spare, 2.05 GB large?

Please can anyone of you give me a tip, how to go on?

Kind regards and happy crunching

Martin 

The files are stored in c:\program data\boinc

The very long way to stopping the igpu from crunching is to use an exclude gpu section in the cc_config file BUT you have to do it for EVERY Boinc Project as 99% of them have igpu tasks.

<exclude_gpu>
<url>http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/</url>
<device_num>0</device_num>
</exclude_gpu>

BUT you also have to know what device_num the gpu is 0, 1, 2 etc and you can find that in the Event Log when Boinc first starts up at the top of the list it will list each gpu Boinc finds.

As others have said the mountkid way is MUCH MUCH easier

Skip Da Shu
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mikey wrote:The files are

mikey wrote:

The files are stored in c:\program data\boinc

The very long way to stopping the igpu from crunching is to use an exclude gpu section in the cc_config file BUT you have to do it for EVERY Boinc Project as 99% of them have igpu tasks.

<exclude_gpu>
<url>http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/</url>
<device_num>0</device_num>
</exclude_gpu>

BUT you also have to know what device_num the gpu is 0, 1, 2 etc and you can find that in the Event Log when Boinc first starts up at the top of the list it will list each gpu Boinc finds.

As others have said the mountkid way is MUCH MUCH easier

On one box (AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics [Family 25 Model 80 Stepping 0]) I have it as:

 <options>
        <ignore_ati_dev>1</ignore_ati_dev>

in the /etc/boinc-client/cc_config.xml which is linked to in /var/lib/boinc-client to cover all projects.  However the device # can change with driver changes.

Somebody would have to xlate this to Windoze directories speak.

Skip

PS:  I didn't realize some of the "X" CPUs are APUs... unlike the Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 9 AM4 chips where I think the APUs end in "G".  My apologies to mountkidd.

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The folder you are looking

The folder you are looking for under Windows is invisible. You have to set file manager to make it visible.

It is called "program data" and you want the "boinc" folder under it.

The iGpu is useful if you have no discrete GPU or if you need the monitor to view something else while your gpu is completely committed to something else.

Like say a mining rig.

Disabling it in the bios sounds like a straight forward solution.

Hope we are helping.

Tom M, yes I have a windows box.

 

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Hallo Mikey! I’ve very

Hallo Mikey!

I’ve very little experience in programming, decades ago. How does look the body of an xml-file? There was no cc_config.xml in my BOINC, so I’ve to write it completely new. At now, it’s that

start
<exclude_gpu>
<url>http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/</url>
<device_num>0</device_num>
</exclude_gpu>
end

At me <0> is my IGPU, >1< is my Radeon 6600 from BOINC-messages.

Even with ´begin´ instead of ´start´ in the first line, I still get the error-message: missing starttag in cc_config.xml

Kind regards and happy crunching

Martin

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