AMD "Phenom" cpu?

Hanford  WA4LZC
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Hi all How do you set up the

Hi all
How do you set up the client so that it will use all 4 cores????? All I can get it to run is two cores. I am running the 5.10.30 BONIC client..... Thanks in advance....

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Hi Hanford. Click here then

Hi Hanford. Click here then look most the way down in the first catagory (there are three). Find the "on multiprocessors, use at most" setting to 4, then update.

Now click on the "projects" tab of the boinc manager, then hightlight the "einstein...." project in the right hand box by clicking on it. Then click the "update" button to the left.

Wait a few min and you should begin using all those cores.

hope this helps
tony

Note: if you're using "local prefs" from the boinc manager, then click "advanced" preferences, and find the same pref to change. If you ever use the "local pref" then it will over ride any web based setting.

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RE: Hi Hanford. Click here

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Hi Hanford. Click here then look most the way down in the first catagory (there are three). Find the "on multiprocessors, use at most" setting to 4, then update.

Now click on the "projects" tab of the boinc manager, then hightlight the "einstein...." project in the right hand box by clicking on it. Then click the "update" button to the left.

Wait a few min and you should begin using all those cores.

hope this helps
tony

Note: if you're using "local prefs" from the boinc manager, then click "advanced" preferences, and find the same pref to change. If you ever use the "local pref" then it will over ride any web based setting.

Thanks Astro going into the advanced prefs did the trick now all four are crunching..........

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Linux patch to enable TLB and

Linux patch to enable TLB and trap errors rather than crash.
[PATCH] AMD Family 10h revision B2 Erratum 298 and L2 Eviction Bug Workaround.
Patch against 2.6.23 kernel (will not work with 2.6.24).
As a note: my 9500 ran fine out of the box, my 9600 had problems with the bug (both are currently running Cosmo, not Einstein).


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Awesome. The 9600 black was

Awesome. The 9600 black was DOA - I just wasted a week diagnosing and sending out a perfectly fine motherboard out on RMA. Now I gotta do the process over again.

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RE: Awesome. The 9600 black

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Awesome. The 9600 black was DOA - I just wasted a week diagnosing and sending out a perfectly fine motherboard out on RMA. Now I gotta do the process over again.

Cosmic fun!

There is nothing wrong with the CPU, or even the last motherboard.

The ABIT AN-M2HD does /NOT/ support the AM2+ processor natively, despite the rather explicit labeling by newegg. I only found that out after contacting AMD directly. Fortunately there was a bios update that allowed the motherboard to utilize the processor - and I had to take my roommate's x2 to do it, too.

The fun increases - I bought the black specifically because it had an unlocked multiplier. I find out that there IS NO MULTIPLIER OPTION in the softmenu part of the bios. Wow. The manual says its' there, and the reviews discussed overclocking and I'd imagine a missing multiplier option would be noticed. As it stands, I can OC by about 100mhz and no more. I need to figure out the quirks - and there are many - of this new system before I try to get more out of it.

Even better - the motherboard is incompatible with my 8800 GTS, so I have to use this onboard crap. There's a bios patch that fixes that, but apparently the bios patch that allows use of the Phenom didn't incorporate the fix that allows me to use my 8800.

On the bright side, the system is all together and crunching. Except for some reason BOINC decided that my x2 system and the phenom system were one in the same. I should have deleted the client xml file.

This is such a clusterf*ck.

edit: ooh, and you can disable the tlb fix in windows.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=171105&page=4

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RE: RE: Awesome. The 9600

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Quote:
Quote:
Awesome. The 9600 black was DOA - I just wasted a week diagnosing and sending out a perfectly fine motherboard out on RMA. Now I gotta do the process over again.

Cosmic fun!

There is nothing wrong with the CPU, or even the last motherboard.

The ABIT AN-M2HD does /NOT/ support the AM2+ processor natively, despite the rather explicit labeling by newegg. I only found that out after contacting AMD directly. Fortunately there was a bios update that allowed the motherboard to utilize the processor - and I had to take my roommate's x2 to do it, too.

The fun increases - I bought the black specifically because it had an unlocked multiplier. I find out that there IS NO MULTIPLIER OPTION in the softmenu part of the bios. Wow. The manual says its' there, and the reviews discussed overclocking and I'd imagine a missing multiplier option would be noticed. As it stands, I can OC by about 100mhz and no more. I need to figure out the quirks - and there are many - of this new system before I try to get more out of it.

Even better - the motherboard is incompatible with my 8800 GTS, so I have to use this onboard crap. There's a bios patch that fixes that, but apparently the bios patch that allows use of the Phenom didn't incorporate the fix that allows me to use my 8800.

On the bright side, the system is all together and crunching. Except for some reason BOINC decided that my x2 system and the phenom system were one in the same. I should have deleted the client xml file.

This is such a clusterf*ck.

edit: ooh, and you can disable the tlb fix in windows.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=171105&page=4


It looks like you have been caught in the trap reported at Tom's Hardware and other sites, A First Look at AMD's Triple Core Phenom. Links in next to last para, page 2.
Further investigation says that this problem is related to the power available to the cpu from the motherboard voltage regulator's. Older motherboards, usually said to be able to use Phenom with BIOS upgrade, do not have the required voltage regulator current output.
It is unlikely that you will be able to OC very much, if at all, some reports say the third cpu (core 2, numbered form 0) has failed at stock speed when run at 100% load.

My personal thoughts say, try and get the motherboard returned and replaced with one that will let the Phenom cpu work correctly.

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RE: RE: RE: Awesome.

Message 75895 in response to message 75894

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Awesome. The 9600 black was DOA - I just wasted a week diagnosing and sending out a perfectly fine motherboard out on RMA. Now I gotta do the process over again.

Cosmic fun!

There is nothing wrong with the CPU, or even the last motherboard.

The ABIT AN-M2HD does /NOT/ support the AM2+ processor natively, despite the rather explicit labeling by newegg. I only found that out after contacting AMD directly. Fortunately there was a bios update that allowed the motherboard to utilize the processor - and I had to take my roommate's x2 to do it, too.

The fun increases - I bought the black specifically because it had an unlocked multiplier. I find out that there IS NO MULTIPLIER OPTION in the softmenu part of the bios. Wow. The manual says its' there, and the reviews discussed overclocking and I'd imagine a missing multiplier option would be noticed. As it stands, I can OC by about 100mhz and no more. I need to figure out the quirks - and there are many - of this new system before I try to get more out of it.

Even better - the motherboard is incompatible with my 8800 GTS, so I have to use this onboard crap. There's a bios patch that fixes that, but apparently the bios patch that allows use of the Phenom didn't incorporate the fix that allows me to use my 8800.

On the bright side, the system is all together and crunching. Except for some reason BOINC decided that my x2 system and the phenom system were one in the same. I should have deleted the client xml file.

This is such a clusterf*ck.

edit: ooh, and you can disable the tlb fix in windows.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=171105&page=4


It looks like you have been caught in the trap reported at Tom's Hardware and other sites, A First Look at AMD's Triple Core Phenom. Links in next to last para, page 2.
Further investigation says that this problem is related to the power available to the cpu from the motherboard voltage regulator's. Older motherboards, usually said to be able to use Phenom with BIOS upgrade, do not have the required voltage regulator current output.
It is unlikely that you will be able to OC very much, if at all, some reports say the third cpu (core 2, numbered form 0) has failed at stock speed when run at 100% load.

My personal thoughts say, try and get the motherboard returned and replaced with one that will let the Phenom cpu work correctly.

The power problem apparently isn't limited to just the Phenoms. The voltage regulator capacitors in my 6000+ machine failed after only one year of service. The board was supposedly a decent one, priced at about $120.00 or so. The 6000+ is one of the early ones, with a 125 Watt TDP.

What was really interesting. . .

When the motherboard's capacitors blew, the power supply got taken out as well. Oh, the supply still checked good when hooked up to a power supply tester, but wouldn't work when plugged into a new motherboard.

I'm surprised that the processor didn't get taken out at the same time. But, it survived, and is now happily crunching away in a new socket AM2+ motherboard. (This motherboard is a workstation class board, so hopefully, it'll hold up better than the last one.)

rroonnaalldd
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OT but in same direction but

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OT but in same direction but for Intel CPU's.
Intels X48 has also only 2 advantages:
1. native FSB 1600,
2. supports CPU with TDP over 135W!

It seems to be that most actual mobos are designed to support only newer CPUs with 65W or max 95W TDP. It would be very interesting to see what happens, when somebody could run tests with power-appz on a P35-chipset or comparable a P4-D with 130W or P4-EE with 150W TDP.
It would be also very interesting to see more tests based on Phenom's or other AMD's with TDP higher than 95W!

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jowr
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I dunno. I haven't made it

I dunno.

I haven't made it clear, but I explicitly made the choice of purchasing a uATX board for a uATX case. I should take a picture, it is really, really sweet.

I knew the overclocking options would be on the slim side, but I trusted the dozen odd reviews in that they'd be there. It also didn't seem too relevant because I realized I wasn't going to get /too/ much out of this stepping.

I do not believe there is any trouble with the motherboard in the sense of serving the required voltage. The system has been burnt in for a solid 12+ hours crunching Einstein. Right now it is maxed out at 48 C, which I consider impressive because not only since it is a quad core but the case has a volume of a cubic foot and a half.

The two parts of this that truly irk me are how I got screwed by parting things out over Newegg [this is a first for them] and how the motherboard doesn't support the 8800 right now.

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