Who cares about the other projects points etc.
I do run only einstein and i want the old units/points.
S5R2 as they made it its a bullshit, nobody will stay to the project with units that needs one day to be finish and take 200 points.
If einsten@home bosses want to stay alone and crunch with their computers only, continue like this.
Its the end of the project.
Be serius and bring back the old unit system, otherwise bye bye.
Yes, the new format is going to require a little work if the AMD users are going to stay around. I have Rosetta loaded and ready.
Just curious, has anyone received any credit for the new jobs. All of mine are pending, pending, pending?
Gary
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Who cares about the other projects points etc.
I do run only einstein and i want the old units/points.
S5R2 as they made it its a bullshit, nobody will stay to the project with units that needs one day to be finish and take 200 points.
If einsten@home bosses want to stay alone and crunch with their computers only, continue like this.
Its the end of the project.
Be serius and bring back the old unit system, otherwise bye bye.
I care about other projects points. It has been annoying me recently that E@H has moved into the top spot on my personal stats. It has never had more access to my hosts than SETI, so it should not have been able to pass SETI.
People hate change, I find it a new challenge. I am happy crunching Einstein, even if the credit changes. It's a worth while project, and deserves to get done. I have even added more resources to it.
Personally, I absolutely agree with you there. You just have to keep in mind that not everyone running BOINC has to be IT savvy, and for someone who wants to just "attach and forget" a project, the current situation is certainly difficult. How should someone who barely gets by with Windows switch his AMD hosts to Linux in order to crunch efficiently, for example? Plus, there are people who have the skill, but simply not the same motivation as you and I. So the current situation is certainly not what one would call ideal, but you're right, it's not as bad as some people make it look. As for adding extra resources- so have I. Someone has to make up for the people having problems or leaving (temporarily) for other projects ;-)
Hello.
The claimed credit for this WU does not show up in my pending-list.
The initial replication is also 3 instead of the standard 2 whereas the minimum quorum remained at 2.
Any one else experienced such a thing?
What is going on?
I personnaly don't think skill with computers is the issue here.
1.) I have mentioned it before, you just need to change the deadlines for less sophisticated computers.
2.) For Program Developers: Who cares about credits honestly? Its not going to get me a new car or groceries for that matter. People honestly are kinda superficial and will want some kind of reward (i.e. credits) for helping out. Here is a suggestion that might make everyone happy. Why don't credits go based on the amount of time spent on WU per user? It would be a very complicated implementation but if one guy has a P3 450 MHz processor and is only producing one unit every 9 1/2 days, why not give him 1900 credits? Thats roughly 200 credits a day that he didn't earn compared to his Pentium and AMD bretheren capable of multiple WU's a day. Maybe you guys talk and make a standard of how many credits a CPU Second is, or a CPU Hour, or a CPU Day. Maybe get bonus credits for continuous labor? Now, I personally don't pay much attention to credits, but I like to collect results myself and browse through them, especially from SETI and Einstein (Sky programs rock!) The problem is you will lose a lot of crunch time from the users that feel they aren't not making the best of their time (don't ask me) with their CPU.
3.) For Other Users: If you really want credits and are credit hungry... get a new computer. Thats the only point of obtaining credits isn't it? So you can compete with everyone else? Compete with the best and own the best. It takes me 8-12 hours per wu depending on which one I get. And that is on one core of my dual core running Vista. I knock out about 4 E@H WU's a day or 2 Einstein@Home WU's and about 8 Seti@Home WU's.
4.) Enough with the "Linux is the way" crap. Quit bashing people who use Windows. If Linux was so much better why did they have develop VirtualPC? A lot of people donate the computer they use (yes people don't just own computers for distribution) in order to help out. Who cares if you get a few extra CPU cycles or less cycles for that matter? I know I don't, but lately I will watch a dvd on my ps2 instead of my laptop just to make sure I am not wasting the cpu cycles for BOINC.
5.) Seti@Home currently does credits in the 49-65 per WU right now. Switch to that project if you want faster credits.
6.) IF you run an old computer left to just be on and "distribute" why the hell do you care if takes 9 days? (If this is about deadlines see #1).
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Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2.00 GHz 4MB L2 Cache
2048 Dual Channel DDR2 553 MHZ
ATi Mobile Radeon x1400 256 MB DDR2 x16 PCI-E
Hello.
The claimed credit for this WU does not show up in my pending-list.
The initial replication is also 3 instead of the standard 2 whereas the minimum quorum remained at 2.
Any one else experienced such a thing?
What is going on?
Looks to me like they've realized that they're getting failures and have upped the initial replication to try to compensate.
Hello.
The claimed credit for this WU does not show up in my pending-list.
The initial replication is also 3 instead of the standard 2 whereas the minimum quorum remained at 2.
Any one else experienced such a thing?
What is going on?
The initial replication was two, but the top one had computer error and it was copied and sent to third host.
2nd and 3rd host have reurned unit but validator says it has checked but they don't meet validation criteria. So it has been sent out to 4th host.
Who cares about the other projects points etc.
I do run only einstein and i want the old units/points.
S5R2 as they made it its a bullshit, nobody will stay to the project with units that needs one day to be finish and take 200 points.
If einsten@home bosses want to stay alone and crunch with their computers only, continue like this.
Its the end of the project.
Be serius and bring back the old unit system, otherwise bye bye.
I care about other projects points. It has been annoying me recently that E@H has moved into the top spot on my personal stats. It has never had more access to my hosts than SETI, so it should not have been able to pass SETI.
My initial two new units crunched with an AMD 3500 show a points earned per hour very comparable to Rosetta@home (about 11.5 points/hour). Previously, E@h was giving me about 19.5 points/hour, which was too high.
@FearCain: What was said here about having to run boxes under Linux was imo not "bashing Windows users". While I personally like using Linux, I also use Windows quite a lot for some things, and I can perfectly well understand if someone prefers using Windows. I'm not a fangirl or sth. Nor was this what the others here were about. I mean, I know some people think everyone using Windows is stupid or so, but what was said in this thread was simply that atm, the science app has problems under Windows, mostly on AMD CPUs, and that therefore, if you want to get the maximum crunching power, it is recommended to run Linux if you can and want. Nothing else ;-)
RE: Who cares about the
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Yes, the new format is going to require a little work if the AMD users are going to stay around. I have Rosetta loaded and ready.
Just curious, has anyone received any credit for the new jobs. All of mine are pending, pending, pending?
Gary
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.....Douglas Adams
RE: Who cares about the
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I care about other projects points. It has been annoying me recently that E@H has moved into the top spot on my personal stats. It has never had more access to my hosts than SETI, so it should not have been able to pass SETI.
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People hate change, I find it
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People hate change, I find it a new challenge. I am happy crunching Einstein, even if the credit changes. It's a worth while project, and deserves to get done. I have even added more resources to it.
Lots of the new ones have been granted credit.
I do not see what all the hype is about. Things change, you either live with change, or live a very boring life.
Personally, I absolutely
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Personally, I absolutely agree with you there. You just have to keep in mind that not everyone running BOINC has to be IT savvy, and for someone who wants to just "attach and forget" a project, the current situation is certainly difficult. How should someone who barely gets by with Windows switch his AMD hosts to Linux in order to crunch efficiently, for example? Plus, there are people who have the skill, but simply not the same motivation as you and I. So the current situation is certainly not what one would call ideal, but you're right, it's not as bad as some people make it look. As for adding extra resources- so have I. Someone has to make up for the people having problems or leaving (temporarily) for other projects ;-)
Hello. The claimed credit for
)
Hello.
The claimed credit for this WU does not show up in my pending-list.
The initial replication is also 3 instead of the standard 2 whereas the minimum quorum remained at 2.
Any one else experienced such a thing?
What is going on?
I personnaly don't think
)
I personnaly don't think skill with computers is the issue here.
1.) I have mentioned it before, you just need to change the deadlines for less sophisticated computers.
2.) For Program Developers: Who cares about credits honestly? Its not going to get me a new car or groceries for that matter. People honestly are kinda superficial and will want some kind of reward (i.e. credits) for helping out. Here is a suggestion that might make everyone happy. Why don't credits go based on the amount of time spent on WU per user? It would be a very complicated implementation but if one guy has a P3 450 MHz processor and is only producing one unit every 9 1/2 days, why not give him 1900 credits? Thats roughly 200 credits a day that he didn't earn compared to his Pentium and AMD bretheren capable of multiple WU's a day. Maybe you guys talk and make a standard of how many credits a CPU Second is, or a CPU Hour, or a CPU Day. Maybe get bonus credits for continuous labor? Now, I personally don't pay much attention to credits, but I like to collect results myself and browse through them, especially from SETI and Einstein (Sky programs rock!) The problem is you will lose a lot of crunch time from the users that feel they aren't not making the best of their time (don't ask me) with their CPU.
3.) For Other Users: If you really want credits and are credit hungry... get a new computer. Thats the only point of obtaining credits isn't it? So you can compete with everyone else? Compete with the best and own the best. It takes me 8-12 hours per wu depending on which one I get. And that is on one core of my dual core running Vista. I knock out about 4 E@H WU's a day or 2 Einstein@Home WU's and about 8 Seti@Home WU's.
4.) Enough with the "Linux is the way" crap. Quit bashing people who use Windows. If Linux was so much better why did they have develop VirtualPC? A lot of people donate the computer they use (yes people don't just own computers for distribution) in order to help out. Who cares if you get a few extra CPU cycles or less cycles for that matter? I know I don't, but lately I will watch a dvd on my ps2 instead of my laptop just to make sure I am not wasting the cpu cycles for BOINC.
5.) Seti@Home currently does credits in the 49-65 per WU right now. Switch to that project if you want faster credits.
6.) IF you run an old computer left to just be on and "distribute" why the hell do you care if takes 9 days? (If this is about deadlines see #1).
Windows Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 @ 2.00 GHz 4MB L2 Cache
2048 Dual Channel DDR2 553 MHZ
ATi Mobile Radeon x1400 256 MB DDR2 x16 PCI-E
RE: Hello. The claimed
)
Looks to me like they've realized that they're getting failures and have upped the initial replication to try to compensate.
RE: Hello. The claimed
)
The initial replication was two, but the top one had computer error and it was copied and sent to third host.
2nd and 3rd host have reurned unit but validator says it has checked but they don't meet validation criteria. So it has been sent out to 4th host.
Andy
RE: RE: Who cares about
)
My initial two new units crunched with an AMD 3500 show a points earned per hour very comparable to Rosetta@home (about 11.5 points/hour). Previously, E@h was giving me about 19.5 points/hour, which was too high.
So I agree with your assessment! :)
@FearCain: What was said here
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@FearCain: What was said here about having to run boxes under Linux was imo not "bashing Windows users". While I personally like using Linux, I also use Windows quite a lot for some things, and I can perfectly well understand if someone prefers using Windows. I'm not a fangirl or sth. Nor was this what the others here were about. I mean, I know some people think everyone using Windows is stupid or so, but what was said in this thread was simply that atm, the science app has problems under Windows, mostly on AMD CPUs, and that therefore, if you want to get the maximum crunching power, it is recommended to run Linux if you can and want. Nothing else ;-)