Report from a Powerbook G4 867 MHz, OS 10.4.2, on unoptimized BOINC 4.43, attached to S@H and Einstein.
0.05 can suspend/resume ok when the entire machine sleeps/wakes (such as closing the cover).
But when I select "Suspend" with the BOINC menubar menu, 0.05 does not stop running (according to Activity Monitor). The Work tab shows all WUs as "suspended."
Then, when I select "Run based on preferences" with the BOINC menubar menu, the Work tab leaves the active 0.05 application (the one shown as still running in Activity Monitor) with status "Paused," and the "CPU Time" and "Progress" stats do not get updated every 5 seconds as would be expected.
One other item: I was running the 4.44 SuperBench and claiming around 117 credits for a completed WU. That hasn't changed since I switched back to 4.43.
Oops! I was mistaken... Once the machine finished processing all the WU(s) in cache and downloaded new ones, it switched to the 4.43, re-ran the benchmarks, and I got a couple of WU in at around 38 credits each. The CPU time stayed the same for crunching each WU, but the claimed credits were about 1/3 as high as the 4.44 SB client. I switched back to the 4.44 SB client.
Other than the not-pausing-problem, .05 client seems to be running fast and clean - although I have about 3 days pending at the moment, none of the others that have cleared have had invalid reports.
I'm running BOINC 4.44 (team MacNN version) on OS X 10.3.9
It appears that the .05 Einstein application runs slightly slower that .02 - times on my G5 2.0 went from about 17,200 seconds to 17,500 - this is running WUs from the same series (l1_1189.0)
Is this a consequence of something deliberate, or is there a slight regression ? It's only ~2% but it was definitely noticable on the results page.
I think I know why you guys are having the pausing problems. Well I can tell you that I am why I am not having them. It's the why you have your Boinc manager set up. I have my "Run always" checked and haven't had any trouble with the pausing or app. switching, because Boinc finishes the earliest deadline first. regardless of which app. it is.
I am thinking the pausing bug is in the "Run based of preferences" in Boinc itself. I have noticed that when you change the Boinc preferences in one app., they automatically update the others. But Einstein I have noticed, does not do this...At least not right away. Maybe worth looking into.
PS...As for the Einstein .05 speed I have noticed no speed change since the .02 version. Both run about 10 hours per WU. .05 may be a little quicker...but just a little bit.
I think we've sorted out the pausing problem. This is a bug in the BOINC API library, which we have been able to fix. I expect that Bernd will have a new executable available fairly soon.
Bernd has just finished building a new test app for OS X which fixes the suspend/resume bug. Please go to the usual location to try it out, and report your experiences to this thread.
I am running only E@H (beta version 0.05) via BOINC on a Macintosh PowerBook G4.
I did the following:
-1- Suspend activity for E@H and Quit BOINC
-2- Download the 0.08 software, replace app_info.xml with the new version, add einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin alongside with einstein_0.05_powerpc-apple-darwin. At this point, both 0.05 and 0.08 show up in the same folder in the Finder.
-3- Start BOINC again. Immediately after that, einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin disappears from the folder in which it was previously. No "einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin" can be found anymore anywhere on the hard disk (using Find from the File menu of the Finder).
-4- Resume activity of E@H, everything seems OK.
-5- When new work is downloaded, it is shown attached to 0.05 under the Work tag.
-6- I repeated items 1 to 4 above twice after the first attempt, with the same strange result.
Report from a Powerbook G4
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Report from a Powerbook G4 867 MHz, OS 10.4.2, on unoptimized BOINC 4.43, attached to S@H and Einstein.
0.05 can suspend/resume ok when the entire machine sleeps/wakes (such as closing the cover).
But when I select "Suspend" with the BOINC menubar menu, 0.05 does not stop running (according to Activity Monitor). The Work tab shows all WUs as "suspended."
Then, when I select "Run based on preferences" with the BOINC menubar menu, the Work tab leaves the active 0.05 application (the one shown as still running in Activity Monitor) with status "Paused," and the "CPU Time" and "Progress" stats do not get updated every 5 seconds as would be expected.
Btw, Activity Monitor shows 0.05 as taking 3 threads (and BOINC gets 1 thread).
I can make the 0.05 WU return to normal behavior by quitting and restarting BOINC.
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Oops! I was mistaken... Once the machine finished processing all the WU(s) in cache and downloaded new ones, it switched to the 4.43, re-ran the benchmarks, and I got a couple of WU in at around 38 credits each. The CPU time stayed the same for crunching each WU, but the claimed credits were about 1/3 as high as the 4.44 SB client. I switched back to the 4.44 SB client.
Other than the not-pausing-problem, .05 client seems to be running fast and clean - although I have about 3 days pending at the moment, none of the others that have cleared have had invalid reports.
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I'm running BOINC 4.44 (team MacNN version) on OS X 10.3.9
It appears that the .05 Einstein application runs slightly slower that .02 - times on my G5 2.0 went from about 17,200 seconds to 17,500 - this is running WUs from the same series (l1_1189.0)
Is this a consequence of something deliberate, or is there a slight regression ? It's only ~2% but it was definitely noticable on the results page.
I think I know why you guys
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I think I know why you guys are having the pausing problems. Well I can tell you that I am why I am not having them. It's the why you have your Boinc manager set up. I have my "Run always" checked and haven't had any trouble with the pausing or app. switching, because Boinc finishes the earliest deadline first. regardless of which app. it is.
I am thinking the pausing bug is in the "Run based of preferences" in Boinc itself. I have noticed that when you change the Boinc preferences in one app., they automatically update the others. But Einstein I have noticed, does not do this...At least not right away. Maybe worth looking into.
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PS...As for the Einstein .05 speed I have noticed no speed change since the .02 version. Both run about 10 hours per WU. .05 may be a little quicker...but just a little bit.
I think we've sorted out the
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I think we've sorted out the pausing problem. This is a bug in the BOINC API library, which we have been able to fix. I expect that Bernd will have a new executable available fairly soon.
Bruce
Director, Einstein@Home
Bernd has just finished
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Bernd has just finished building a new test app for OS X which fixes the suspend/resume bug. Please go to the usual location to try it out, and report your experiences to this thread.
Director, Einstein@Home
I am running only E@H (beta
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I am running only E@H (beta version 0.05) via BOINC on a Macintosh PowerBook G4.
I did the following:
-1- Suspend activity for E@H and Quit BOINC
-2- Download the 0.08 software, replace app_info.xml with the new version, add einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin alongside with einstein_0.05_powerpc-apple-darwin. At this point, both 0.05 and 0.08 show up in the same folder in the Finder.
-3- Start BOINC again. Immediately after that, einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin disappears from the folder in which it was previously. No "einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin" can be found anymore anywhere on the hard disk (using Find from the File menu of the Finder).
-4- Resume activity of E@H, everything seems OK.
-5- When new work is downloaded, it is shown attached to 0.05 under the Work tag.
-6- I repeated items 1 to 4 above twice after the first attempt, with the same strange result.
What should I do ? With best regards, JJ
You are doing nothing wrong.
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You are doing nothing wrong. There seems to be a bug in the client triggered by the new app_info.xml file. We are currently looking into it.
BM
BM
Ok, we found it. Bruce should
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Ok, we found it. Bruce should put a new 0.08 archive on the server soon.
BM
BM
OK, this is now fixed.
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OK, this is now fixed. Apologies for the trouble! Please download and install the two files:
app_info.xml
einstein_0.08_powerpc-apple-darwin
again.
Be sure to stop BOINC before doing this, then restart when you are done.
Bruce
Director, Einstein@Home