I don't know what the dew point was. However; the air is quite dry right at this time of year. No rain will fall until LATE next month; IF we have a "normal" October. With the drought situation; I don't know what we're in for here...
TL
Trump said you do NOT have a drought, he said 'you have a water mismanagement problem', he also said HE would fix it if he gets elected!! I think he is like a Christmas Turkey though 'full of it'!!
It rained here the other night and my rain barrel. 40 gallon, filled up within 10 minutes. It's fed from a downspout that comes off the back of my garage but the rain from the back corner of my main roof also dumps onto that garage roof. That's the long way of saying...IT POURED!!! Before that rain it had been a few weeks since we had gotten anything worthwhile and the recent temps had been in the low to mid 90's, since the rain the temps are STILL in the low to mid 90's. Come Sunday it's supposed to go back down into the lower 80's again, which is my normal daytime temps for this time of year.
I don't know what the dew point was. However; the air is quite dry right at this time of year. No rain will fall until LATE next month; IF we have a "normal" October. With the drought situation; I don't know what we're in for here...
TL
Trump said you do NOT have a drought, he said 'you have a water mismanagement problem', he also said HE would fix it if he gets elected!! I think he is like a Christmas Turkey though 'full of it'!!
It rained here the other night and my rain barrel. 40 gallon, filled up within 10 minutes. It's fed from a downspout that comes off the back of my garage but the rain from the back corner of my main roof also dumps onto that garage roof. That's the long way of saying...IT POURED!!! Before that rain it had been a few weeks since we had gotten anything worthwhile and the recent temps had been in the low to mid 90's, since the rain the temps are STILL in the low to mid 90's. Come Sunday it's supposed to go back down into the lower 80's again, which is my normal daytime temps for this time of year.
Actually; since you mentioned it, there IS ALSO a water mismanagement problem here in the state of CA. Governor Moonbeam has had the state pass Measure after Measure and Law after Law to better maintain current reservoirs AND to add/make new ones. NOTHING has happened on that front in YEARS!!!
If more reservoirs were built and the existing ones maintained better, we'd have much less of a problem than we do now. INSTEAD, the water district management, (EBMUD for me), now overcharges us an EXTRA 25% on our water bill as an "incentive" to use less water... How does that make any sense?????
I still believe that desalination plants put in throughout the state would better serve us by allowing us to use ocean water. The salt extracted could even be sold on the market to help offset expenditures of the desalination process. BUT, NOOOOO; NOTHING is happening on that front. INSTEAD, excuses are made saying that desalination is to expensive to run.
I still believe that desalination plants put in throughout the state would better serve us by allowing us to use ocean water. The salt extracted could even be sold on the market to help offset expenditures of the desalination process. BUT, NOOOOO; NOTHING is happening on that front. INSTEAD, excuses are made saying that desalination is to expensive to run.
Exactly ! you should have nuclear powered desalination plants. Also, specially designed nuclear plants that are very efficient at producing Hydrogen. (I read about those years ago in popular mechanics ... or some-wheres )
Then .... you could All be cruising around in Hydrogen powered Prius's )
OH! It's my thread. I shall have to think up a trigger to end it. I'm not that good at being in charge of threads. Perhaps I should appoint someone to be my in charge person.
I believe that the general global consensus is away from nuclear "anything" and more towards wind, solar and similar technologies. With nuclear we are trading one problem for another. Seawater desalination is quite expensive per square foot of facility for the amount of drinkable water produced. No one would be willing to pay for it on a large scale. The best water supply is what mother nature provides in the form of evaporation, condensation, and accumulation. We have always assumed that area A will always get rain/snow but that has obviously changed and so our mighty dams are running dry.
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I thought that an interstate water transportation supply would be ideal. Certain areas are prone to flooding so if we build large reclamation "ponds" to capture that excess we could pump water to those areas in the US that are experiencing a water shortage. It would require large capacity ponds and large pipes utilizing hydro screws to move the water. This would benefit the entire country and put many to work and when the job was completed there would still be a maintenance crews required to maintain the system in each state. For example if the Mississippi flooded we could "fill" the upstream side of Hoover which by the looks of it really needs water.
I don't know if pipelines are feasible for water (I mean, there are some already, but not 2K miles long). I do know BNSF Railway has looked at running tank trains of water, but so far the economics haven't worked out. They said they would look at it again every once in a while, though.
David
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Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
Just woke up, and couldn't get back to sleep until about 5:30-ish... Woke up again at 9:30; been on multiple Forums and then went downstairs for some news on TV. Now, I'm back here.
is getting close to half that length. I don't see that length alone to be the issue. Route and the mountains where the water has to flow uphill will be the issue.
TimeLord04 wrote:Good evening
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Trump said you do NOT have a drought, he said 'you have a water mismanagement problem', he also said HE would fix it if he gets elected!! I think he is like a Christmas Turkey though 'full of it'!!
It rained here the other night and my rain barrel. 40 gallon, filled up within 10 minutes. It's fed from a downspout that comes off the back of my garage but the rain from the back corner of my main roof also dumps onto that garage roof. That's the long way of saying...IT POURED!!! Before that rain it had been a few weeks since we had gotten anything worthwhile and the recent temps had been in the low to mid 90's, since the rain the temps are STILL in the low to mid 90's. Come Sunday it's supposed to go back down into the lower 80's again, which is my normal daytime temps for this time of year.
mikey wrote:TimeLord04
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Actually; since you mentioned it, there IS ALSO a water mismanagement problem here in the state of CA. Governor Moonbeam has had the state pass Measure after Measure and Law after Law to better maintain current reservoirs AND to add/make new ones. NOTHING has happened on that front in YEARS!!!
If more reservoirs were built and the existing ones maintained better, we'd have much less of a problem than we do now. INSTEAD, the water district management, (EBMUD for me), now overcharges us an EXTRA 25% on our water bill as an "incentive" to use less water... How does that make any sense?????
I still believe that desalination plants put in throughout the state would better serve us by allowing us to use ocean water. The salt extracted could even be sold on the market to help offset expenditures of the desalination process. BUT, NOOOOO; NOTHING is happening on that front. INSTEAD, excuses are made saying that desalination is to expensive to run.
TL
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Exactly ! you should have nuclear powered desalination plants. Also, specially designed nuclear plants that are very efficient at producing Hydrogen. (I read about those years ago in popular mechanics ... or some-wheres )
Then .... you could All be cruising around in Hydrogen powered Prius's )
(sort of like miniaturized Hindenburg's : )
Bill
BTW Scott ... you are up early !
Saying there's a management
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Saying there's a management problem, even if it's true, does not change the fact that precipitation has been below normal for several years.
Moving on and winning before we get too political here.
Speaking of winning, I checked and it's still Kathryn's thread.
David
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OH! It's my thread. I shall
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OH! It's my thread. I shall have to think up a trigger to end it. I'm not that good at being in charge of threads. Perhaps I should appoint someone to be my in charge person.
Oh, if you should forget, I'm still winning.
Kathryn :o)
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I believe that the general
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I believe that the general global consensus is away from nuclear "anything" and more towards wind, solar and similar technologies. With nuclear we are trading one problem for another. Seawater desalination is quite expensive per square foot of facility for the amount of drinkable water produced. No one would be willing to pay for it on a large scale. The best water supply is what mother nature provides in the form of evaporation, condensation, and accumulation. We have always assumed that area A will always get rain/snow but that has obviously changed and so our mighty dams are running dry.
[EDIT]
I thought that an interstate water transportation supply would be ideal. Certain areas are prone to flooding so if we build large reclamation "ponds" to capture that excess we could pump water to those areas in the US that are experiencing a water shortage. It would require large capacity ponds and large pipes utilizing hydro screws to move the water. This would benefit the entire country and put many to work and when the job was completed there would still be a maintenance crews required to maintain the system in each state. For example if the Mississippi flooded we could "fill" the upstream side of Hoover which by the looks of it really needs water.
I'm not sure how you can win
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I'm not sure how you can win your own thread.
I don't know if pipelines are feasible for water (I mean, there are some already, but not 2K miles long). I do know BNSF Railway has looked at running tank trains of water, but so far the economics haven't worked out. They said they would look at it again every once in a while, though.
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
Bill592 wrote:BTW Scott ...
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Yeah, I've been up since 4:30 AM - Pacific...
Just woke up, and couldn't get back to sleep until about 5:30-ish... Woke up again at 9:30; been on multiple Forums and then went downstairs for some news on TV. Now, I'm back here.
btw: Good afternoon everyone.
TL
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Probably my last post today,
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Probably my last post today, perhaps for the whole weekend. Coach conductor both days.
David
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David S wrote: I'm not sure
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Nah, she is the winner standing over on the platform and not in the race ...
Well ....
is getting close to half that length. I don't see that length alone to be the issue. Route and the mountains where the water has to flow uphill will be the issue.