Why Such Low Credit On New WU's ?

utopia-i
utopia-i
Joined: 8 Nov 07
Posts: 7
Credit: 1,014,015
RAC: 0

It would/may/perhaps be

It would/may/perhaps be useful to post somewhere, a sticky, on ow the 'new' credit is derived. [appologies if its on another forum post, the forums are awash of new posts/topics]

I must confess that I'm new to the project and new to the forums so not overly sure on how it all hangs together so to speak, impressed with the prompt/friendly replies to my 2 posts so far ..

any how ... credit .. I think this example sums it up for me .. its on my Mac Pro but doubt Mac is a factor and yes I'm not into any power apps , just let the BOINC client download what it wants/needs ...

103547732 42236496  5 Aug 2008 Over Success Done  27,395.04 65.75  pending

103225210 42099562 29 Jul 2008 Over Success Done 14,597.10 237.53 237.53

now perhaps the key here is 'pending' I await to see what I am granted.

and remember ... b happy

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,306
Credit: 153,068,681
RAC: 81,659

RE: 103547732 42236496 5

Message 83581 in response to message 83580

Quote:

103547732 42236496  5 Aug 2008 Over Success Done  27,395.04 65.75  pending

103225210 42099562 29 Jul 2008 Over Success Done 14,597.10 237.53 237.53

now perhaps the key here is 'pending' I await to see what I am granted.

Yup, pending is the go. Your work unit is sent out to others also ( I can't examine that as your computers are hidden ) - and when all return there is a comparison between members of such a 'quorum'. All being well credit will be granted. Ignore claimed credit, as while it's emitted from the BOINC client software on your machine, for this project it's irrelevant ( the 65.75 ). Credit is awarded by the project server and not any software on your computer. In days of yore there were ( still are ) 'optimised' BOINC clients that, shall we say kindly, are/were written ( and not necessarily in any official sense ) to be 'generous'.

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Arion
Arion
Joined: 20 Mar 05
Posts: 147
Credit: 1,626,747
RAC: 0

I'm not as worried about the

I'm not as worried about the adjustment of the credits as I am the length of time its now taking to process them. On this machine it used to be 6 1/2 to 7 hrs and granted credit was 237+. Now its taking 13+ hours and 177 to 180 granted credits.

I realize the power apps had nothing to do with how much credit you recieved and the lost here is in processing time.I gained about 45% more time and therefore I could process more work in a days time, where I was doing 7 or 8 a day it looks like its going to be 3 or 4 now. That's a major hit on work being done, Hopefully we'll get anothr power app for windows that can give us our time back.

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,306
Credit: 153,068,681
RAC: 81,659

[pre] Total needed

[pre]
Total needed Already done Work still remaining
12,104,080 units 113,707 units 11,990,373 units
100 % 0.939 % 99.061 %
172.2 days 1.6 days 170.6 days (estimated)
[/pre]
Ah, that's better!

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
Bikeman (Heinz-...
Moderator
Joined: 28 Aug 06
Posts: 3,516
Credit: 485,677,828
RAC: 1,474

RE: [pre] Total needed

Message 83584 in response to message 83583

Quote:

[pre]
Total needed Already done Work still remaining
12,104,080 units 113,707 units 11,990,373 units
100 % 0.939 % 99.061 %
172.2 days 1.6 days 170.6 days (estimated)
[/pre]
Ah, that's better!

Cheers, Mike.

But I'm afraid that maybe the total time needed might be a bit off. As far as I can see there is more work in S5R4: bigger parameter space, longer observation time. I would not be surprises to see 250 days based on the current "host workforce" and app performance. ATLAS could make a difference, of course. So I don't really trust the 170 days estimate yet.

CU
Bikeman

Mike Hewson
Mike Hewson
Moderator
Joined: 1 Dec 05
Posts: 6,306
Credit: 153,068,681
RAC: 81,659

RE: But I'm afraid that

Message 83585 in response to message 83584

Quote:
But I'm afraid that maybe the total time needed might be a bit off. As far as I can see there is more work in S5R4: bigger parameter space, longer observation time. I would not be surprises to see 250 days based on the current "host workforce" and app performance. ATLAS could make a difference, of course. So I don't really trust the 170 days estimate yet.


Certainly. At least it's in the ballpark now. :-)

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

utopia-i
utopia-i
Joined: 8 Nov 07
Posts: 7
Credit: 1,014,015
RAC: 0

First comparison ... Linux

First comparison ... Linux box, no power/special apps ..

previously
old WUs granted credit
14645.39 [4 hours] gave 237.42pts = 59 points per hour

now
new WUs granted credit
22632.54 [6.3 hours] gave 192.24pts = 30.51 points per hour

maths never my strong point but that ='s a 50% reduction

[edit]
I see discussion on credits is here
Problems and Bug Reports : validaton error with new client[/edit]

Bill592
Bill592
Joined: 25 Feb 05
Posts: 786
Credit: 70,825,065
RAC: 0

Howdy All, My

Howdy All,

My first Post : - )

All I ask, is that my granted credit - be somehow tied in to the inflation rate
of the “Zimbabwean dollar�

Currently: ZW$1.2 trillion is worth the same as one British pound.

Therefore – according to my plan - each of my completed work units, would generate
1.2 trillion in credit.!

Seriously – I do not care if Einstein@home credits have parity with other projects.

I last ran Seti sometime before Y2K.


Regards, Bill

Richard Haselgrove
Richard Haselgrove
Joined: 10 Dec 05
Posts: 2,059
Credit: 1,005,790,487
RAC: 1,338,008

RE: Howdy All, My

Message 83588 in response to message 83587

Quote:

Howdy All,

My first Post : - )

All I ask, is that my granted credit - be somehow tied in to the inflation rate
of the “Zimbabwean dollar�

Currently: ZW$1.2 trillion is worth the same as one British pound.

Therefore – according to my plan - each of my completed work units, would generate
1.2 trillion in credit.!

Seriously – I do not care if Einstein@home credits have parity with other projects.

I last ran Seti sometime before Y2K.


Regards, Bill


Ah, but did you read http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7537971.stm?

"Zimbabwe's central bank ... is striking ten zeros off Zimbabwe dollar bank notes, making 10bn dollars now equal to one dollar." (1 Aug 2008)

What would that do for cross-project parity?

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
Bikeman (Heinz-...
Moderator
Joined: 28 Aug 06
Posts: 3,516
Credit: 485,677,828
RAC: 1,474

Yeah, that would be cool, a

Yeah, that would be cool, a script that strikes a few zeros from all users credits... for admins in need of hate mails and enemies :-)
CU
Bikeman

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.