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telegd
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Yes - glad you were able to

Yes - glad you were able to sort it out! I am going to have to deal with my i7 cooling one of these days. The CPU runs at 65-70C on only 3 WU's and I would rather not slowly roast my motherboard.

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Many of those CPUs ran cool enough they didn't need a heatsink at all, and 486's just had tiny little ones; IIRC all passive types.


Yeah - I had several old machines that just had a heatsink with no fan. Well, if you go far enough back we are talking Vic20 and ZX81, but they didn't have the technology to go fast enough to make any heat :-)

I am always interested to see what the low-power chips are doing. Stuff like the Atom CPUs are always riding the line between heat/power/speed. The chips in smartphones and touchpads seem pretty amazing to me for what they are able to do. Even the throttled celeron in my early eePC is a thing of amazement. The little fan does kick in though...

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RE: I too use Artic Silver

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I too use Artic Silver exclusively now, I did use some other stuff in the past but all the magazines rated Artic Sliver the best so i switched too.

AS5 was the best years ago, but is rather dated now. Your current best bet for a cheap, easy to apply, TIM is Arctic Cooling MX2. For a higher performance grease at a higher price, ProlimaTech PK-1 or Shin-Etsu X23-7783D; the latter is somewhat finicky to apply. Indigo Extreme ourperforms anything else on the market but is seriously expensive for a single use product.

http://skinneelabs.com/tim-review-v2/4/
http://skinneelabs.com/chillaramic-heatbuster-tmp1000/4/

mikey
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RE: RE: Artic Sliver A

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Artic Sliver

A bad sequel to an already bad Sliver. ;-)

Hey maybe I was thinking of a future release of the product that actually cooled the cpu, nah...it was just a type, sorry! But if they came out with a new movie sequel and Sharon Stone is in it, I AM watching it!!

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RE: RE: I too use Artic

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I too use Artic Silver exclusively now, I did use some other stuff in the past but all the magazines rated Artic Sliver the best so i switched too.

AS5 was the best years ago, but is rather dated now. Your current best bet for a cheap, easy to apply, TIM is Arctic Cooling MX2. For a higher performance grease at a higher price, ProlimaTech PK-1 or Shin-Etsu X23-7783D; the latter is somewhat finicky to apply. Indigo Extreme ourperforms anything else on the market but is seriously expensive for a single use product.

http://skinneelabs.com/tim-review-v2/4/
http://skinneelabs.com/chillaramic-heatbuster-tmp1000/4/

WOW the things some of us have no clue about, THANKS!! They say you try to learn something new every day, it is now 8:15 AM where I am and I have already learned something new today!

DanNeely
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RE: RE: RE: I too use

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I too use Artic Silver exclusively now, I did use some other stuff in the past but all the magazines rated Artic Sliver the best so i switched too.

AS5 was the best years ago, but is rather dated now. Your current best bet for a cheap, easy to apply, TIM is Arctic Cooling MX2. For a higher performance grease at a higher price, ProlimaTech PK-1 or Shin-Etsu X23-7783D; the latter is somewhat finicky to apply. Indigo Extreme ourperforms anything else on the market but is seriously expensive for a single use product.

http://skinneelabs.com/tim-review-v2/4/
http://skinneelabs.com/chillaramic-heatbuster-tmp1000/4/

WOW the things some of us have no clue about, THANKS!! They say you try to learn something new every day, it is now 8:15 AM where I am and I have already learned something new today!

It's fairly new to me as well; I've been evangelizing over the last few months since I know a lot of people have gotten overly complacent about it over the years.

telegd
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Thanks for the thermal

Thanks for the thermal compound links. Very interesting!

I have a question (sorry to go semi-off-topic):

How do people deal with ventilation vs dust buildup? I need to put more case ventilation on my machine (it is 5 deg cooler with the side off), but the dust it sucks in bothers me. I worry that some of the dust gets pushed further into the heat sink(s) when I use compressed air to clean it out.

Is there any kind of simple dust filter that doesn't slow the air too much? I almost think some kind of side-panel made of thin furnace-filter material would be an improvement...

mikey
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RE: Thanks for the thermal

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Thanks for the thermal compound links. Very interesting!

I have a question (sorry to go semi-off-topic):

How do people deal with ventilation vs dust buildup? I need to put more case ventilation on my machine (it is 5 deg cooler with the side off), but the dust it sucks in bothers me. I worry that some of the dust gets pushed further into the heat sink(s) when I use compressed air to clean it out.

Is there any kind of simple dust filter that doesn't slow the air too much? I almost think some kind of side-panel made of thin furnace-filter material would be an improvement...

I have heard of people using coffee filters as filters, but that only works well on fans that blow air into the case. Filtering the outgoing air seems silly.

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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RE: I have heard of people

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I have heard of people using coffee filters as filters, but that only works well on fans that blow air into the case. Filtering the outgoing air seems silly.

Let's be careful, "coffee filter" can mean different things in different parts of the world :-), according to local coffee making habits. I would not recommend the paper (!) filters we use here in Germany for what we call coffee, you would need a jet engine to press air thru that ...

OTOH, Italians would insist that what we call coffee here is merely a first order approximation to the real thing.

HB

telegd
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RE: ... you would need a

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... you would need a jet engine to press air thru that ...


Yes, that is my worry.

I ran across this page after posting earlier:
http://www.computerairfilter.com/Filter_materials.htm

Has anyone tried any of these methods? It looks like there are a few 'patented' products around where you just tape a bit of filter paper over the intake vents.

Does anyone use a room air purifier? Does it cut down on computer maintenance?

mikey
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RE: RE: ... you would

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... you would need a jet engine to press air thru that ...

Yes, that is my worry.

I ran across this page after posting earlier:
http://www.computerairfilter.com/Filter_materials.htm

Has anyone tried any of these methods? It looks like there are a few 'patented' products around where you just tape a bit of filter paper over the intake vents.

Does anyone use a room air purifier? Does it cut down on computer maintenance?

Yes I use one and no it does not seem to cut it down. It does help with the allergies though!

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