I got an old Compaq server running a 1 Ghz P3. Do you think it would be worth running Einstein on it?
Depends on how many drives, PCI cards, etc. that are in it, and thus consuming electricity. My dual 1 GHz P3 would complete a workunit on each processor on average every 28 hours with the 4.36 SSE Power App. I don't run it right now because of it being summertime here, and it has 2 10,000RMP SCSI drives in it, so it makes a fair amount of heat that would have to be air conditioned back out.
I got an old Compaq server running a 1 Ghz P3. Do you think it would be worth running Einstein on it?
I have a .93 GHz Coppermine running BOINC.
Using the Windows Beta ap 4.36, it has been using 23 to 31 CPU hours to compute a Work Unit. So it can attain an Einstein-only RAC somewhat over 200.
"worth running" is a value judgment, but if BOINC were your only reason for running this machine you'd be far ahead to retire it and apply the power consumption savings to a modern machine (say a Q6600, or possibly one of the Penryn-generation quads). If you are committed to running it for other purposes, then you can argue that only the incremental power over idle CPU is chargeable to Einstein, which looks better, but it is still power inefficient compared to modern machines, even on the more favorable incremental basis.
I keep mine running for various household use reasons, but am actively considering replacing it with a modern machine.
My Q6600 host gets an Einstein RAC over 4000. It currently burns about 210 watts (has a generous supply of peripherals), which is no more than two or three times the consumption of the P3 host which it bests by 20 times in Einstein production.
Very interesting. The BOINC benchmark deems it moderately slower than my 930 MHz Coppermine, but I think it uses quite a lot less power. It will be interesting to see the actual Einstein performance relative to benchmark.
Yours supports SSE3?
Of course. Atom supports MMX,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,SSSE3 and EM64T instruction sets.
The whole computer eats 44W and has a very poor computing performance.
( My Q6600 eats 98W, but seems to be much faster. )
That's poor performance per watt then if that's the case. MY 2.2 Ghz AMD Athlon x2 system uses around 50W when idle, slightly above 100W when running max.
Far from being a "vintage computer", this one is still "unusual" so it fits the thread title :-) : The new Top Host at E@H is a 24 core monster running the stock Windows app (so there's room for improvement).
Far from being a "vintage computer", this one is still "unusual" so it fits the tread title :-) : The new Top Host at E@H is a 24 core monster running the stock Windows app (so there's room for improvement).
CU
Bikeman
Unusual indeed. It is detected as a "Intel64 Family 6 Model 29 Stepping 1"
"Model 29" hummm... wonder if that is a Nehalem? There is one on top of the SETI top hosts lists today also. However that one appears to have been a rename, as the hostid has been in use since about October 2007, and suddenly became erratic in daily credit about October 7, 2008. It may be using the delayed reporting trick, or may just be getting started in its new form.
The Einstein host looks more legitimate--started getting credit in very late September 2008, and may have taken an uptick about October 10 (maybe added processors?)
An eyeball average of the Einstein host's recent days suggests it is logging about 25000 credits/day. If it really is a Nehalem, since it is hyperthreaded, the 24 CPU count may mean just 12 cores. 2000 credits/day per core on the stock Windows ap would be very impressive. (no way my Quad could dream of hitting 8000/day)
A quick Google search for this family/model/stepping ID only gets hits to various BOINC stats pages.
Of course, the other possibility is that someone is false-flagging.
I would have thought this is a four CPU x 6 cores "Dunnington" box. Does anybody have the CPUID code for those?
I think you have the truth of it. Makes more sense than Nehalem, and if this post is to be trusted the CPUID fits (well the post calls the model "1D" but in hex that would be 29 decimal).
To find the post, search for Dunnington, in a post at 9:38 p.m. on September 19, then scroll to the CPUID section.
RE: I got an old Compaq
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Depends on how many drives, PCI cards, etc. that are in it, and thus consuming electricity. My dual 1 GHz P3 would complete a workunit on each processor on average every 28 hours with the 4.36 SSE Power App. I don't run it right now because of it being summertime here, and it has 2 10,000RMP SCSI drives in it, so it makes a fair amount of heat that would have to be air conditioned back out.
RE: I got an old Compaq
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I have a .93 GHz Coppermine running BOINC.
Using the Windows Beta ap 4.36, it has been using 23 to 31 CPU hours to compute a Work Unit. So it can attain an Einstein-only RAC somewhat over 200.
"worth running" is a value judgment, but if BOINC were your only reason for running this machine you'd be far ahead to retire it and apply the power consumption savings to a modern machine (say a Q6600, or possibly one of the Penryn-generation quads). If you are committed to running it for other purposes, then you can argue that only the incremental power over idle CPU is chargeable to Einstein, which looks better, but it is still power inefficient compared to modern machines, even on the more favorable incremental basis.
I keep mine running for various household use reasons, but am actively considering replacing it with a modern machine.
My Q6600 host gets an Einstein RAC over 4000. It currently burns about 210 watts (has a generous supply of peripherals), which is no more than two or three times the consumption of the P3 host which it bests by 20 times in Einstein production.
RE: RE: Very interesting.
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That's poor performance per watt then if that's the case. MY 2.2 Ghz AMD Athlon x2 system uses around 50W when idle, slightly above 100W when running max.
Far from being a "vintage
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Far from being a "vintage computer", this one is still "unusual" so it fits the thread title :-) : The new Top Host at E@H is a 24 core monster running the stock Windows app (so there's room for improvement).
CU
Bikeman
RE: Far from being a
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Unusual indeed. It is detected as a "Intel64 Family 6 Model 29 Stepping 1"
"Model 29" hummm... wonder if that is a Nehalem? There is one on top of the SETI top hosts lists today also. However that one appears to have been a rename, as the hostid has been in use since about October 2007, and suddenly became erratic in daily credit about October 7, 2008. It may be using the delayed reporting trick, or may just be getting started in its new form.
The Einstein host looks more legitimate--started getting credit in very late September 2008, and may have taken an uptick about October 10 (maybe added processors?)
An eyeball average of the Einstein host's recent days suggests it is logging about 25000 credits/day. If it really is a Nehalem, since it is hyperthreaded, the 24 CPU count may mean just 12 cores. 2000 credits/day per core on the stock Windows ap would be very impressive. (no way my Quad could dream of hitting 8000/day)
A quick Google search for this family/model/stepping ID only gets hits to various BOINC stats pages.
Of course, the other possibility is that someone is false-flagging.
I would have thought this is
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I would have thought this is a four CPU x 6 cores "Dunnington" box. Does anybody have the CPUID code for those?
CU
Bikeman
RE: I would have thought
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I think you have the truth of it. Makes more sense than Nehalem, and if this post is to be trusted the CPUID fits (well the post calls the model "1D" but in hex that would be 29 decimal).
To find the post, search for Dunnington, in a post at 9:38 p.m. on September 19, then scroll to the CPUID section.
Hmmm... I thought
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Hmmm...
I thought Dunnington was one of the i7 family.
Alinator
RE: Hmmm... I thought
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No, it's a 45nm "Penryn" class design, so it still features a conventional Front side bus (!), e.g. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon#7400-series_.22Dunnington.22.
CU
Bikeman
Hi everyone! This is my first
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Hi everyone!
This is my first post and I like to add my Pentium III
GenuineIntel
x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10 [x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10]
It works hard, but I don't know if I'll use E@H anymore because it takes about 100 hours to complete a task!