PC Cases that have space to install "3rd" gpu

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Peter Hucker wrote: … doesn't

Peter Hucker wrote:
 … doesn't the pump just run all the time?  It's not variable like a fan.

No, you can just plug the pump 3-pin header into the CPU fan header and use that to adjust the pump speed but if memory serves with the EVGA units you have to first plug in a USB connection into a Windows machine and change the control mode.

If the pumps in mine do start to fail then hopefully it will be before they hit the 3 year warranty so I can get them replaced under a RMA. But hopefully within the next 12 months GPU prices will get to saner levels and I’ll be able to procure some newer cards.

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gordonbb wrote:Windows tends

gordonbb wrote:
Windows tends to have higher PCIe utilization than Linux for Folding@Home. Likely something to do with how it (mis)manages Contention for the bus. I found testing under Linux that only when you get up to a RTX2080Super do you start to see a degradation in performance using a x4 connection rather than a x8 or x16.

In Boinc you can use 1x.

gordonbb wrote:
The x1 USB risers used for mining will tank your production in Folding for all but really low end GPUs especially under Windows so I don’t have any experience using them but they seem fraught with issues. My biggest concern with them is their use of SATA power connectors with under sized wire for the 75W PCIe power. I’ve seen many reports of people having them melt and one of our participants in a recent Folding contest had one of his rigs catch fire taking out itself and an adjacent system.

Odd, mine don't.  I guess it depends on the card and if it draws a lot of current from the board instead of through its own power connectors as it should.  Also SATA?!  You might get such an adapter with it, but you don't have to use it.  Just connect a proper 6 pin GPU plug.  And fire?!  I've had things short before and the PSU just cuts out.

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Ah, the Glaswegian accent. I remember visiting there the first time in ‘84 and going for Curry and Chips on Sauckihall? and ordering a pint of Guinness and a nip o’malt then noticing all the locals were drinking Budweiser and smoking Marlborough’s - very strange.

Surprised nothing went wrong.  That's a shithole according to my sister.  Hahahah!  Check out tripadvisor: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186534-d190127-Reviews-Sauchiehall_Street-Glasgow_Scotland.html

 

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gordonbb wrote: Peter Hucker

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Peter Hucker wrote:
 … doesn't the pump just run all the time?  It's not variable like a fan.

No, you can just plug the pump 3-pin header into the CPU fan header and use that to adjust the pump speed but if memory serves with the EVGA units you have to first plug in a USB connection into a Windows machine and change the control mode.

If the pumps in mine do start to fail then hopefully it will be before they hit the 3 year warranty so I can get them replaced under a RMA. But hopefully within the next 12 months GPU prices will get to saner levels and I’ll be able to procure some newer cards.

Ah I vaguely remember using the header.  I'm just surprised a pump could have a variable speed like that.  Anyway mine broke while not running fast.

Either I didn't have a 3 year warranty, or the thing failed just after that.

Not sure if they do it nowadays, but in the 80s my friend bought one of those stupid Amstrad ripoffs of a Sinclair ZX Spectrum.  It broke 7 times over 4 years.  But they gave him a year's warranty on each replacement!

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I am sorry to say that I may

I am sorry to say that I may have ended up starting a now "obsolete" thread. I am up to 4 gpus on a mining frame and I have plugged up all the PCIe slots (16x and 1x) even though I am not actively using all of them.  Those 1x usb3 cards have come in handy :)

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These are

These are brilliant: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185104169680

4 GPUS off one 1x socket.

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Peter Hucker wrote: These

Peter Hucker wrote:

These are brilliant: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185104169680

4 GPUS off one 1x socket.

I have experimented with riser kits and expansion cards extensively. I had trouble with reliability. I still like the concept but eventually switched to ribbon cables.

I have 2-4 expansion cards of the type you linked to. I also still have a single 1 to 8 expansion card. But my results with riser kits was "variable" and eventually something would stop working.

Darn it.

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Tom M wrote:I have

Tom M wrote:

I have experimented with riser kits and expansion cards extensively. I had trouble with reliability. I still like the concept but eventually switched to ribbon cables.

I have 2-4 expansion cards of the type you linked to. I also still have a single 1 to 8 expansion card. But my results with riser kits was "variable" and eventually something would stop working.

Odd, as the only problem I've had with GPUs is the power connectors.  They tarnish and drop some voltage causing a lot of  problems.  I replace the plugs often, and if the GPU side gets tarnished, I solder the power on directly.  I've never found the riser itself to cause a problem, even sharing one socket to 4 cards.

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Peter Hucker wrote: Tom M

Peter Hucker wrote:

Tom M wrote:

I have experimented with riser kits and expansion cards extensively. I had trouble with reliability. I still like the concept but eventually switched to ribbon cables.

I have 2-4 expansion cards of the type you linked to. I also still have a single 1 to 8 expansion card. But my results with riser kits was "variable" and eventually something would stop working.

Odd, as the only problem I've had with GPUs is the power connectors.  They tarnish and drop some voltage causing a lot of  problems.  I replace the plugs often, and if the GPU side gets tarnished, I solder the power on directly.  I've never found the riser itself to cause a problem, even sharing one socket to 4 cards.

you're also running very old hardware with very early PCIe gens which aren't as strict on signal integrity.

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Actually most are on PCI-E

Actually most are on PCI-E 3.

We can't all afford the latest kit.

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Peter, I believe many people

Peter, I believe many people have been successful using expansion cards and riser kits. My own success has been highly variable.

So I decided to try direct on the motherboard. And later flat ribbon cables.

My experience with riser kits included several different mining motherboards. But buying used mining m.b. turned out to be an an exercise in "cheaveate empor"(sp) (buyer beware).

So I am buying new mb's only. And using flat ribbon cables only.

At this stage of the game I have found a pretty cheap Asus mb (ROG b450-f strix) that is both good enough and looks to be reliable.

Tom M

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