No credit for 4 successfully completed work units

Mullard-EL34
Mullard-EL34
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Topic 187896

I now have 4 work units that my systems were the first to successfully complete and while other users who completed the same WU's have received computational credit, my systems are still being credited with 0 credits. The work unit ID's are:

368010
365194
357991
353870

The same systems (running exactly the same OS and BOINC/Einstein software) have been credited for successfully completing other work units.

How do I get my account properly credited for completed WU?

Saenger
Saenger
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No credit for 4 successfully completed work units

Hello Mullard-EL34,
all your WUs were declared 'invalid' by the validator:

368010
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 85.1380915051653
Granted credit 0
365194
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 84.603292367318
Granted credit 0
357991
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 84.5506285010476
Granted credit 0
353870
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 67.7149645986323
Granted credit 0

So there has to be a problem with this machine.
Is it perhaps overclocked? That's a known reason for the production of invalid results.

But as I can't see inside of neither the results nor your puter, it's only a guess ;-)

BTW:
For information regarding Credits look here!

Grüße vom Sänger

Mullard-EL34
Mullard-EL34
Joined: 20 Feb 05
Posts: 5
Credit: 524
RAC: 0

> Hello Mullard-EL34, > all

Message 4300 in response to message 4299

> Hello Mullard-EL34,
> all your WUs were declared 'invalid' by the validator:
>
> 368010
> Validate state Invalid
> Claimed credit 85.1380915051653
> Granted credit 0
> 365194
> Validate state Invalid
> Claimed credit 84.603292367318
> Granted credit 0
> 357991
> Validate state Invalid
> Claimed credit 84.5506285010476
> Granted credit 0
> 353870
> Validate state Invalid
> Claimed credit 67.7149645986323
> Granted credit 0
>
> So there has to be a problem with this machine.
> Is it perhaps overclocked? That's a known reason for the production of invalid
> results.
>
> But as I can't see inside of neither the results nor your puter, it's only a
> guess ;-)
>
> BTW:
> For information regarding Credits look href="https://einsteinathome.org/%3Ca%20href%3D"http://boinc-doc.net/site-common/glossary/letter-c.php#credit">http://boinc-doc.net/site-common/glossary/letter-c.php#credit">here[/url]!
>

The system is not over-clocked. It's based on an ASUS K8V motherboard, AMD Athlon64 CPU, 2 GB system memory and a fully-patched version of Fedora Core 3. I understand how the credits are assigned.

If every result from the system had been invalidated, I might be inclined to think that the problem is on the client system. However, the exact same system has been granted credits for other returned results (from both Einstein@Home and SETI@Home).

Therefore, there's either:

(1) a bug in the Einstein@Home Linux client (at least with regards to Fedora Core 3) or

(2) a bug in the validator system, resulting in cleanly-completed results being tagged as "invalid"

Any response from the moderator(s)?

Bruce Allen
Bruce Allen
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Credit: 172,127,663
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> > Hello Mullard-EL34, > >

Message 4301 in response to message 4300

> > Hello Mullard-EL34,
> > all your WUs were declared 'invalid' by the validator:
> >
> > 368010
> > Validate state Invalid
> > Claimed credit 85.1380915051653
> > Granted credit 0
> > 365194
> > Validate state Invalid
> > Claimed credit 84.603292367318
> > Granted credit 0
> > 357991
> > Validate state Invalid
> > Claimed credit 84.5506285010476
> > Granted credit 0
> > 353870
> > Validate state Invalid
> > Claimed credit 67.7149645986323
> > Granted credit 0
> >
> > So there has to be a problem with this machine.
> > Is it perhaps overclocked? That's a known reason for the production of
> invalid
> > results.
> >
> > But as I can't see inside of neither the results nor your puter, it's
> only a
> > guess ;-)
> >
> > BTW:
> > For information regarding Credits look
> href="https://einsteinathome.org/%3Ca%20href%3D"http://boinc-doc.net/site-common/glossary/letter-c.php#credit">http://boinc-doc.net/site-common/glossary/letter-c.php#credit">here[/url]!
> >
>
> The system is not over-clocked. It's based on an ASUS K8V motherboard, AMD
> Athlon64 CPU, 2 GB system memory and a fully-patched version of Fedora Core 3.
> I understand how the credits are assigned.
>
> If every result from the system had been invalidated, I might be inclined to
> think that the problem is on the client system. However, the exact same
> system has been granted credits for other returned results (from both
> Einstein@Home and SETI@Home).
>
> Therefore, there's either:
>
> (1) a bug in the Einstein@Home Linux client (at least with regards to Fedora
> Core 3) or
>
> (2) a bug in the validator system, resulting in cleanly-completed results
> being tagged as "invalid"
>
> Any response from the moderator(s)?

I'll look into this. It may indicate a problem with our validator.

Bruce

Director, Einstein@Home

Jagen
Jagen
Joined: 19 Feb 05
Posts: 1
Credit: 1,200,564
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I've also noticed this

I've also noticed this problem today. Work unit 375567 and 376561
Both machines that have had this problem are linux machines, and both the 0 credit work units had the program closed via a ctrl-c at some point during processing, related?

chilandra
chilandra
Joined: 19 Feb 05
Posts: 4
Credit: 72,060
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Hi I have yet to receive

Message 4303 in response to message 4301

Hi

I have yet to receive any credit for any of the WU's completed 6+. Not sure if I was a trailblazer with the units or not.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention this and to see if anything can be checked.

Thanks!

Bruce Allen
Bruce Allen
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Joined: 15 Oct 04
Posts: 1,113
Credit: 172,127,663
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> Hi > > I have yet to

Message 4304 in response to message 4303

> Hi
>
> I have yet to receive any credit for any of the WU's completed 6+. Not sure
> if I was a trailblazer with the units or not.
>
> Anyway, just thought I'd mention this and to see if anything can be checked.

Looks like everything is well -- just be patient. You have to wait until some other users have finished the same WU so they can be validated.

Bruce

Director, Einstein@Home

Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
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Mullard, I answered your

Mullard,

I answered your older posting here.

BM

BM

Ensor
Ensor
Joined: 9 Feb 05
Posts: 49
Credit: 1,450,362
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Hi Bruce, > I'll look

Message 4306 in response to message 4301

Hi Bruce,

> I'll look into this. It may indicate a problem with our
>validator.
>
> Bruce

Just a heads up, if you take a look at work unit id #366758 (http://einsteinathome.org/workunit/366758) you'll see that both systems whose results were declared invalid were running Windows, whereas the hosts granted credit were running Linux.

I understand there was/is a problem with results from Windows machines sometimes invalidating results from Linux machines? If this WU is anything to go by there may be a deeper problem.

TTFN - Pete.


Efferri
Efferri
Joined: 24 Feb 05
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Credit: 2,107
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Wow, I never realized. People

Wow,
I never realized. People treat their WU credits similar to a paycheck!!! PATIENCE PEOPLE!! Lol, I have 4 uncreditted units and I don't care! nani nani boo boo!!! I'm gonna see how many I can crunch before I get credit!

Anyway, I want to say kudos to the scientists and developers of E@H

so... KUDOS!

Efferri Nex Necis
System Criteria Einstein@Home Team
http://www.systemct.com

Magnus Back
Magnus Back
Joined: 19 Feb 05
Posts: 12
Credit: 10,964
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No Efferi we don't treat it

No Efferi we don't treat it as a paycheck but we want to see proof that our CPU cycles are actually used for something useful.
It costs us electricity and CPU time.
If einstein@home cannot show it is using it properly there are plenty of other projects and right now I'm in a situation where three machines are producing units but it's all wasted due to bugs in the software.

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