I do not think it is hardware related either but if you don't check and it is you will have wasted alot of time. It is kind of like the Doctor that uses his stethoscope to see if your heart is still beating when he can see that you are breathing, he KNOWS you heart is working because it stops AFTER your breathing as you die, but he does it anyway.
I just checked your latest problem units and the error code is -120, I checked a wiki and it says the problem is:
ERR_RSA_FAILED -120 RSA key check failed for file RSA key check failed for a file
Now I have no idea what that means but do you run this under your Admin login account or a different account? If a different account maybe the permissions aren't what Einstein is looking for? When you installed Boinc did you chose the default options or did you customize them? When I do it I always uncheck 'use the screensaver' and then check to 'let anyone manage Boinc' but other than that I use the defaults? You did not chose a 'service' install by chance did you?
Greetings Mikey,
No, I run under a different account that has some admin rights. It doesn't have full admin. I have always run Windoze that way. That error definition you mentioned lends credence to my suspicion that Windoze is corrupted some how, again. Perhaps another good idea would be to run the i7, with BOINC running, on the admin account to see what happens. Maybe my personal account got hosed somehow. Makes sense to me, how 'bout you? I'll do it just for GP.
When I install BOINC it is with the default values. Maybe I should use "Custom" since I have to get rid of the screen saver every time. I did not know I could install without the screen saver enabled. I don't run a screen saver. No need to with todays technology. :)
I don't do the service install, never have. I believe I read on the SETI forum something about it causing people headaches when installed as a service.
Ok, so it's been running, once again, for 26 hours without so much as a sneeze. Let's see what running on the admin account does... :)
This is really strange! Running on the admin account is like running Windoze for the very first time. But, BOINC is running, so we'll see what happens.
I made a discovery I had forgotten about, here on Einstein, when I went to log into my account. I inadvertently used an alternate e-mail address, one that I don't use for anything BOINC, and found a fake account created, with that e-mail address, on Oct 28, 2005. I discovered it, long ago, and somehow gained access to it and changed the password which still works.
I remember, years ago, when I found several fake BOINC project accounts created by the same person who created the one here using that e-mail address. I had forgotten all about those accounts, long ago.
Anyway, let's see how this i7 fairs while running on the admin account.
Just to add to this, with ref my entire cache twice being 'blown-up; by computation- errors (http://einsteinathome.org/node/195445), after rebooting to satisfy AVG installation/update, + also ensuring enough HDD space after a lot of video-recording (I had 200MB free at 1 point), things this end too now appear a bit more stable.
Basically if you need to reboot, do so... I know, it's painful!
Well, yesterday's test was a bust. After running on the admin account, with BOINC and even BOINC doing some VP WUs, after just over 7 hours, the crap started happening. At which point, I shut down all programs and shut down the i7, while I went to the store.
When I got back I fired up the i7 and let it boot into my personal account. I allowed BOINC to finish the last 3 "good" VP WUs, which took all of about 3 minutes. They were uploaded and all 50 reported. I then shut down BOINC and grabbed my "Ultimate Boot CD" CD.
As you know, from an update the other day, memory checks out fine and the boot HDD checked out fine. I ran a "torture test" CPU stress program and let it complete. It reported the 4 cores error free.
I do believe that my next course of action will be to re-install BOINC. I'm not sure if I have to do an uninstall/clean install or a repair install. I guess I am about to find out.
My last course of action will be to do a Windoze repair install or go all out and do a clean install. At this point, I'm thinking repair because I plan on installing a 64 bit OS sometime in the new year anyway. I just need this thing to hang in there until I do.
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
[edit]
I forgot to mention that the i7 has been running just fine, with only Firefox running, for 11 hours now. Although, task manager still reports that the boinctray.exe process is still running. It did this before, too. Unless that process does even without the tray icon being on the tray...
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Well, yesterday's test was a bust. After running on the admin account, with BOINC and even BOINC doing some VP WUs, after just over 7 hours, the crap started happening. At which point, I shut down all programs and shut down the i7, while I went to the store.
Have you checked out the error log yet? It is under Control Panel, System and Security, then under Administrative Tools you will see Event Viewer, click on it! You will see a ton of things in the top box, then if you click on each one you can see details in the box below. You are looking for problems around the time your pc crashed.
Quote:
I forgot to mention that the i7 has been running just fine, with only Firefox running, for 11 hours now. Although, task manager still reports that the boinctray.exe process is still running. It did this before, too. Unless that process does even without the tray icon being on the tray...
Mine does the same thing and when I notice it I close it, but it does not seem to make any difference if Boinc is not running. I do NOT close when Boinc is running though.
Although, task manager still reports that the boinctray.exe process is still running. It did this before, too. Unless that process does even without the tray icon being on the tray...
The name of that task is misleading. It has nothing to do with the system tray (icon). It simply checks for keyboard and mouse activity in case that boinc is to crunch only when the host is idle.
Gruß,
Gundolf
Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz)
Although, task manager still reports that the boinctray.exe process is still running. It did this before, too. Unless that process does even without the tray icon being on the tray...
The name of that task is misleading. It has nothing to do with the system tray (icon). It simply checks for keyboard and mouse activity in case that boinc is to crunch only when the host is idle.
Gruß,
Gundolf
The icon you see is associated with the BOINC Manager application - and again the Manager is not essential to BOINC's computations.
Have you checked out the error log yet? It is under Control Panel, System and Security, then under Administrative Tools you will see Event Viewer, click on it! You will see a ton of things in the top box, then if you click on each one you can see details in the box below. You are looking for problems around the time your pc crashed.
Quote:
-[ snip ]-
-[ snip ]-
Greetings Mikey,
I looked at Event viewer/System and the last error reported was on Nov 9, 2010. No errors or warnings for yesterday or today. A few warnings scattered between yesterday and Oct 9. I'm wondering if whatever the problem is is not getting picked up by the log. (see update below)
*** UPDATE ***
I did a repair install of BOINC. I did not re-boot the i7, it had been running for 11 hours, just allowed BOINC to start. No WU processing involved this time. In less than an hour the crap hit again. So, I'm thinking it is not BOINC. I'm thinking that the only way to rid the i7 of this crap is to do a repair install of Windoze. Of course, the ultimate remedy would be to do a clean install. That is such a pain, so is the repair just to a lesser degree.
I already have all my really important files and stuff backed up to my second hard drive, just in case something goes south during re-install. Oh, I better grab my bookmarks and such for Firefox too. Forgot about that...
So, I will be spending the next few hours on the re-install and then re-configuration of everything. Not to mention all the updates that Windoze is going to demand to do too. UGH! :(
I do believe I have exhausted every possible avenue to fix this. In the end, I still believe that Windoze is corrupted. I still cannot get over the fact that this all started just after I re-attached to Einstein. But, since I had a multitude of VP WUs with computation errors yesterday, Einstein cannot be at fault. At least not directly. Perhaps something glitched during the re-attachment process and it would have happened with any project I would have attached to at that time.
Well, off to Windoze installation H E double hockey sticks... :(
Ok, supposedly the Windoze repair install has finished. I did see a weird thing happen where an nVidia driver was un-installed during the Win install. The un-install asked for a reboot, I click "No".
Now, for the past 20 minutes I have been sitting on a screen with the WinXP logo and copyright, sitting here "Please wait..."-ing, still. I believe Windoze has stalled, at this point. I'm thinking I have to hit the reset button on the i7, now. Hopefully, Windoze will recover...
Ok, supposedly the Windoze repair install has finished. I did see a weird thing happen where an nVidia driver was un-installed during the Win install. The un-install asked for a reboot, I click "No".
Now, for the past 20 minutes I have been sitting on a screen with the WinXP logo and copyright, sitting here "Please wait..."-ing, still. I believe Windoze has stalled, at this point. I'm thinking I have to hit the reset button on the i7, now. Hopefully, Windoze will recover...
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
You MUST click YES to reboot or the changes cannot be made to the OS!
Yes if it is 'hung' just push the off button and hold it down until the machine powers off, then tap it again, after about a slow count to 10, and the machine should power back on just fine.
RE: RE: -[ snip ]- I do
)
Greetings Mikey,
No, I run under a different account that has some admin rights. It doesn't have full admin. I have always run Windoze that way. That error definition you mentioned lends credence to my suspicion that Windoze is corrupted some how, again. Perhaps another good idea would be to run the i7, with BOINC running, on the admin account to see what happens. Maybe my personal account got hosed somehow. Makes sense to me, how 'bout you? I'll do it just for GP.
When I install BOINC it is with the default values. Maybe I should use "Custom" since I have to get rid of the screen saver every time. I did not know I could install without the screen saver enabled. I don't run a screen saver. No need to with todays technology. :)
I don't do the service install, never have. I believe I read on the SETI forum something about it causing people headaches when installed as a service.
Ok, so it's been running, once again, for 26 hours without so much as a sneeze. Let's see what running on the admin account does... :)
Thanks for the added info and idea Mikey! :)
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
Greetings
)
Greetings everyone,
ALLLLLLL RIGHTY THEN...
This is really strange! Running on the admin account is like running Windoze for the very first time. But, BOINC is running, so we'll see what happens.
I made a discovery I had forgotten about, here on Einstein, when I went to log into my account. I inadvertently used an alternate e-mail address, one that I don't use for anything BOINC, and found a fake account created, with that e-mail address, on Oct 28, 2005. I discovered it, long ago, and somehow gained access to it and changed the password which still works.
I remember, years ago, when I found several fake BOINC project accounts created by the same person who created the one here using that e-mail address. I had forgotten all about those accounts, long ago.
Anyway, let's see how this i7 fairs while running on the admin account.
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
Just to add to this, with ref
)
Just to add to this, with ref my entire cache twice being 'blown-up; by computation- errors (http://einsteinathome.org/node/195445), after rebooting to satisfy AVG installation/update, + also ensuring enough HDD space after a lot of video-recording (I had 200MB free at 1 point), things this end too now appear a bit more stable.
Basically if you need to reboot, do so... I know, it's painful!
Greetings everyone, ***
)
Greetings everyone,
*** UPDATE ***
Well, yesterday's test was a bust. After running on the admin account, with BOINC and even BOINC doing some VP WUs, after just over 7 hours, the crap started happening. At which point, I shut down all programs and shut down the i7, while I went to the store.
When I got back I fired up the i7 and let it boot into my personal account. I allowed BOINC to finish the last 3 "good" VP WUs, which took all of about 3 minutes. They were uploaded and all 50 reported. I then shut down BOINC and grabbed my "Ultimate Boot CD" CD.
As you know, from an update the other day, memory checks out fine and the boot HDD checked out fine. I ran a "torture test" CPU stress program and let it complete. It reported the 4 cores error free.
I do believe that my next course of action will be to re-install BOINC. I'm not sure if I have to do an uninstall/clean install or a repair install. I guess I am about to find out.
My last course of action will be to do a Windoze repair install or go all out and do a clean install. At this point, I'm thinking repair because I plan on installing a 64 bit OS sometime in the new year anyway. I just need this thing to hang in there until I do.
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
[edit]
I forgot to mention that the i7 has been running just fine, with only Firefox running, for 11 hours now. Although, task manager still reports that the boinctray.exe process is still running. It did this before, too. Unless that process does even without the tray icon being on the tray...
[/edit]
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
RE: Greetings
)
Have you checked out the error log yet? It is under Control Panel, System and Security, then under Administrative Tools you will see Event Viewer, click on it! You will see a ton of things in the top box, then if you click on each one you can see details in the box below. You are looking for problems around the time your pc crashed.
Mine does the same thing and when I notice it I close it, but it does not seem to make any difference if Boinc is not running. I do NOT close when Boinc is running though.
RE: Although, task manager
)
The name of that task is misleading. It has nothing to do with the system tray (icon). It simply checks for keyboard and mouse activity in case that boinc is to crunch only when the host is idle.
Gruß,
Gundolf
Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz)
RE: RE: Although, task
)
The icon you see is associated with the BOINC Manager application - and again the Manager is not essential to BOINC's computations.
RE: RE: -[ snip ]- Have
)
Greetings Mikey,
I looked at Event viewer/System and the last error reported was on Nov 9, 2010. No errors or warnings for yesterday or today. A few warnings scattered between yesterday and Oct 9. I'm wondering if whatever the problem is is not getting picked up by the log. (see update below)
*** UPDATE ***
I did a repair install of BOINC. I did not re-boot the i7, it had been running for 11 hours, just allowed BOINC to start. No WU processing involved this time. In less than an hour the crap hit again. So, I'm thinking it is not BOINC. I'm thinking that the only way to rid the i7 of this crap is to do a repair install of Windoze. Of course, the ultimate remedy would be to do a clean install. That is such a pain, so is the repair just to a lesser degree.
I already have all my really important files and stuff backed up to my second hard drive, just in case something goes south during re-install. Oh, I better grab my bookmarks and such for Firefox too. Forgot about that...
So, I will be spending the next few hours on the re-install and then re-configuration of everything. Not to mention all the updates that Windoze is going to demand to do too. UGH! :(
I do believe I have exhausted every possible avenue to fix this. In the end, I still believe that Windoze is corrupted. I still cannot get over the fact that this all started just after I re-attached to Einstein. But, since I had a multitude of VP WUs with computation errors yesterday, Einstein cannot be at fault. At least not directly. Perhaps something glitched during the re-attachment process and it would have happened with any project I would have attached to at that time.
Well, off to Windoze installation H E double hockey sticks... :(
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
Greetings everyone, ***
)
Greetings everyone,
*** UPDATE ***
Ok, supposedly the Windoze repair install has finished. I did see a weird thing happen where an nVidia driver was un-installed during the Win install. The un-install asked for a reboot, I click "No".
Now, for the past 20 minutes I have been sitting on a screen with the WinXP logo and copyright, sitting here "Please wait..."-ing, still. I believe Windoze has stalled, at this point. I'm thinking I have to hit the reset button on the i7, now. Hopefully, Windoze will recover...
Keep on BOINCing...! :)
CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr XO
USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187
Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
RE: Greetings
)
You MUST click YES to reboot or the changes cannot be made to the OS!
Yes if it is 'hung' just push the off button and hold it down until the machine powers off, then tap it again, after about a slow count to 10, and the machine should power back on just fine.