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K, Is it a laptop? Are

K,

Is it a laptop?

Are you running it up off the desk/table top so air can get underneath?

Since it benchmarked "normal" when cool it sounds like you are thermal throttling. Which means cooling is the issue.

People use different things to raise the macine off the surface, two pencils, drying rack turned over, etc. The idea is to let air in underneath to circulate.

For the dirt/dust you can look at the inlet and outlets and see of they have a build up of dirt. If so, the case may need cleaning so that air can circulate. Some cases you can open easily and vacuum yourself. Others are better done by the mfgr ... not going to suggest a choice here ...

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RE: K, Is it a

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K,

Is it a laptop?

Are you running it up off the desk/table top so air can get underneath?

Since it benchmarked "normal" when cool it sounds like you are thermal throttling. Which means cooling is the issue.

People use different things to raise the macine off the surface, two pencils, drying rack turned over, etc. The idea is to let air in underneath to circulate.

For the dirt/dust you can look at the inlet and outlets and see of they have a build up of dirt. If so, the case may need cleaning so that air can circulate. Some cases you can open easily and vacuum yourself. Others are better done by the mfgr ... not going to suggest a choice here ...

hey Paul.

Yes, it is a lappy. I have it propped up on a trivit. I just reran my benchmarks after it had been on a couple hours and it is up to temp and they seem fine now. Perhaps all it needed was a hard reboot.

I do try to keep it very clean since I'm very allergic to dust and it's little components. And I spend a good time sitting at the computer. So I don't want it blowing dust all over me.

I won't even pretend to understand this box sitting in front of me. But if this is the biggest problem I've had in running BOINC since I started. Then I'm better off than most of the people with problems.

Here are the benchmarks at startup..

1/7/2006 2:01:23 PM||Running CPU benchmarks
1/7/2006 2:02:22 PM||Benchmark results:
1/7/2006 2:02:22 PM|| Number of CPUs: 1
1/7/2006 2:02:22 PM|| 1380 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
1/7/2006 2:02:22 PM|| 3022 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
1/7/2006 2:02:22 PM||Finished CPU benchmarks

And then a little while later.

1/7/2006 3:11:48 PM||Running CPU benchmarks
1/7/2006 3:12:47 PM||Benchmark results:
1/7/2006 3:12:47 PM|| Number of CPUs: 1
1/7/2006 3:12:47 PM|| 1449 double precision MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
1/7/2006 3:12:47 PM|| 2557 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
1/7/2006 3:12:47 PM||Finished CPU benchmarks

I think it looks ok now.

Thanks everyone for you help.

Kathryn

Kathryn :o)

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Kathryn, Yes, hard boots

Kathryn,

Yes, hard boots are needed from time to time with Windows. If it is win95/98/etc. this is more common (I used to do it at least once a week).

But, good news you are back up! :)

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RE: Kathryn, Yes, hard

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Kathryn,

Yes, hard boots are needed from time to time with Windows. If it is win95/98/etc. this is more common (I used to do it at least once a week).

But, good news you are back up! :)

I'm on XP, but I'll be adding a hard boot to my morning (well, maybe evening since I'm getting up way to early as it is) routine.

Once again, thanks everyone for your help. It's good to be again.

Kathryn

Kathryn :o)

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Rats.. I was wrong about

Rats.. I was wrong about predicting your albert times . :P
Go figure.. I go to my corner now..


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RE: Rats.. I was wrong

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Rats.. I was wrong about predicting your albert times . :P
Go figure.. I go to my corner now..

It's ok.

Come out of your corner and give some more advice.

Kathryn :o)

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RE: RE: Kathryn, Yes,

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Quote:

Kathryn,

Yes, hard boots are needed from time to time with Windows. If it is win95/98/etc. this is more common (I used to do it at least once a week).

But, good news you are back up! :)

I'm on XP, but I'll be adding a hard boot to my morning (well, maybe evening since I'm getting up way to early as it is) routine.

Once again, thanks everyone for your help. It's good to be again.

Kathryn

Don't think you need to be that extreem. Probably once a week would be good enough. I don't even reboot my win98se machine everyday. It gets a 3-4 day run between reboots.
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Kathryn, for what it's

Kathryn, for what it's worth... My win xp machine can get slightly unstable without a cold start periodically. Before getting involved in DC I used to shut my machine down every night; after starting DC it runs 24/7 and that is when I noticed the instability. Not only did the WUs start to run slower and slower over time but upon reboot the machine would crash sometimes, multiple reboots were required occasionally.

Since BOINC automatically does benchmarks every 5(?) days I now reboot every 4 days and manually run the benchmarks until I'm happy with them. Computer seems stable with this.

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RE: Kathryn, for what it's

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Kathryn, for what it's worth... My win xp machine can get slightly unstable without a cold start periodically. Before getting involved in DC I used to shut my machine down every night; after starting DC it runs 24/7 and that is when I noticed the instability. Not only did the WUs start to run slower and slower over time but upon reboot the machine would crash sometimes, multiple reboots were required occasionally.

Since BOINC automatically does benchmarks every 5(?) days I now reboot every 4 days and manually run the benchmarks until I'm happy with them. Computer seems stable with this.


If you're suffering that type of problem it might be worth trying next tome you reboot to remove power completely from the computer and waiting 10 to 15 seconds before re-applying. Modern computers have a 5V standy line which is always on, so that computer can be booted from LAN etc. Removing the power completely ensures any RAM for these components gets flushed.

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RE: If you're suffering

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If you're suffering that type of problem it might be worth trying next tome you reboot to remove power completely from the computer and waiting 10 to 15 seconds before re-applying. Modern computers have a 5V standy line which is always on, so that computer can be booted from LAN etc. Removing the power completely ensures any RAM for these components gets flushed.

Vsb wasn't added for wake on lan although it does allow it. IT was added to allow momentary power switch instead of a dipole and the use of electronics to enable the main power (the old AT design ran the AC to and from the switch on the case). This allowed for software powerdown (ie windows turning the PC off for you during shutdown) and all the wake on X functionality. I'm not sure but I think wake on X wasn't in the original spec since keeping those devices running would require more current, and ATX2.0 increased the peak Vsb current.

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