Discussion Thread for the Continuous GW Search known as O2MD1 (now O2MDF - GPUs only)

Mr P Hucker
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Keith Myers wrote: Will be

Keith Myers wrote:

Will be interesting to see where VRAM usage settles out with the new OpenCL 3.0 specification that is being finalized.  It is based on the old 1.2 specification that Nvidia settled on.

Will AMD cards in the future be limited to 27% of memory like Nvidia cards currently are?

They're making a new OpenCL?  I thought OpenCL was being depricated in favour of Vulkan.

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Keith Myers
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Quote: They're making a new

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They're making a new OpenCL?  I thought OpenCL was being depricated in favour of Vulkan.

Vulkan IS NOT a compute API.  It is a graphics API. 

 

Ian&Steve C.
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well Vulkan does have

well Vulkan does have compute, but it's not really for GPGPU, its more for doing computations that are feeding a 3D rendering process.

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Keith Myers
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Yes, I know.  I was replying

Yes, I know.  I was replying in the context of GPGPU compute.  Read the Anandtech link for a deep dive into the OpenCL 3.0 specification and learn more than you ever wanted about OpenCL.

 

Ian&Steve C.
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it was more of a preemptive

it was more of a preemptive reply to Peter for when he inevitably googles "Vulkan" and reads the first sentence on the wikipedia page which says it does compute in very general terms. lol.

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Mr P Hucker
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Ian&Steve C. wrote: it was

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

it was more of a preemptive reply to Peter for when he inevitably googles "Vulkan" and reads the first sentence on the wikipedia page which says it does compute in very general terms. lol.

[Spanks Ian or Steve (which one am I talking to?) very hard indeed]

If Wikipedia is wrong, correct it.

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Ian&Steve C.
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its not wrong, its just

its not wrong, its just general and open to the wrong impression from people who don't bother reading more than the first sentence of wikipedia articles. wikipedia is not a tech journal, and mostly just gives basic information about a lot of things.

but the fact is that Vulkan, while it has compute capabilities, they are meant for the context of 3D rendering and not pure GPGPU. you probably can use Vulkan for GPGPU, but since it's not really designed for that, no one is doing it. everyone is using it for it's intended purpose, gaming.

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Mr P Hucker
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Ian&Steve C. wrote:its not

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

its not wrong, its just general and open to the wrong impression from people who don't bother reading more than the first sentence of wikipedia articles.

Oy!  Are you implying that I'm a lazy reader?  I can guarantee that you'd be entirely correct.

Ian&Steve C. wrote:

wikipedia is not a tech journal, and mostly just gives basic information about a lot of things.

but the fact is that Vulkan, while it has compute capabilities, they are meant for the context of 3D rendering and not pure GPGPU. you probably can use Vulkan for GPGPU, but since it's not really designed for that, no one is doing it. everyone is using it for it's intended purpose, gaming.

So we're stuck with the OpenCL and Cuda wars....  if only people could get along and work together instead of reinventing the wheel?

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Peter Hucker wrote:So we're

Peter Hucker wrote:
So we're stuck with the OpenCL and Cuda wars....  if only people could get along and work together instead of reinventing the wheel?

But, but, but we would be completely without "wheelies" if people weren't re-inventing the wheel...

 

Tom M

 

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