Here's a good plot indicating the influence of the 60Hz power supply upon matters :
The whole plot is a 'noise budget' reflecting from what source is the energy coming from. The red circles indicate the base frequency plus multiples ( harmonics ) at 120 Hz, 180 Hz and 240 Hz. Nearly all the colored curves show these features. Each curve color represents the mode/mechanism/box within which the noise lies. So this is like someone humming next to you while you are trying to watch the TV/live-show/movie ...... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) How would you reduce that 60Hz signal + harmonics? Ah, well that is indeed the question .... you have to use electricity for lots of gadgets AND many of them are expecting 60Hz for their normal operation. So you have to let Mister Sixty Hertz enter the property ...... :-)
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I think my mains frequency is 50 Hz in Italy. I used to put my finger on the input of an HP Oscilloscope set to that frequency and I could see a beautiful sine wave. Nobody cared about "electrosmog" in these years.
Tullio
I think my mains frequency is 50 Hz in Italy. I used to put my finger on the input of an HP Oscilloscope set to that frequency and I could see a beautiful sine wave. Nobody cared about "electrosmog" in these years.
Tullio
I think the Hanford site has a power plant a few miles to the northeast with transmission lines passing even closer by the interferometer. Even if the lines were arranged in quadrupolar pattern ( four to a bundle with separators ) to reduce radiation it'll still emit a significant signal. It's actually possible to steal power if you live nearby/under these long distance lines ( draped tower to tower ) - simply do your math and lay your lines underground as you'll get an induced current within the loop you make. You have to be close as quadrupoles drop by the inverse cube I think. A few people DownUnda have been prosecuted for exactly that! :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Maybe that is why ENEL is putting power lines underground...
I don't think it's ever been proven to any agreed standard, but they may be sensitive to claims against them for some of the rarer leukaemias and the like which some researchers have indicated might be the case. Perhaps the EM radiation is sufficiently resonant, it is claimed, to affect ionic 'pores' in cell membranes. It's hard to tell whether any clusters of cases can be reliably attributed though. In any case underground lines are quite expensive to install but have comparatively very small maintenance indeed ....
( and Wikipedia says it's inverse cube )
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) I spy with my Google Earth Eye something I've marked with a nearby red line :
which when enlarged :
( edit ) Can anyone find that pesky railway line near Livingston LIGO? :-)
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I think there is a railway line also near Virgo and it is the Pisa-Florence line, with a good deal of traffic also because it serves the Pisa airport for tourists coming and going both ways, since the Florence airport is small and does not accept wide bodied aircrafts.
Tullio,
Ah, what a laugh ...... I have to show this from the Hanford logs:
which is the sound of a 'golf cart' going on/off a concrete slab near their kitchen. See how sensitive is our spacetime measuring device ?! Leading to the following rule :
Cheers, Mike. ( who is clearly having a quiet night on the graveyard shift himself .... )
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Maybe that is why ENEL is putting power lines underground...
I don't think it's ever been proven to any agreed standard, but they may be sensitive to claims against them for some of the rarer leukaemias and the like which some researchers have indicated might be the case. Perhaps the EM radiation is sufficiently resonant, it is claimed, to affect ionic 'pores' in cell membranes. It's hard to tell whether any clusters of cases can be reliably attributed though.
There's also competing hypothesis that the electric fields precipitate out a curtain of pollution and particulates from the air, or that living under powerlines presupposes poorer housing/living conditions...
Or it could just be that the power distribution industry uses cancer-causing materials.
Or could it be that there are unhealthily elevated levels of O3 and other arcing products?
I would never want to live 200m or less near a high powerline.
I've also seen what working for life with normal radar for fishingboats does to you. Severe skin-effects.
I tink you should approach it the same as low lvl radiation.
Hanford : They caught a live bat and set it free, also found a dead one. It got stuck in a bucket, now stored upside down. Perhaps there's some 'hazing' going on as a result
Quote:
-For every one bat you see, there must be ten you don't. I think we should send the two new operators crawling through the ceiling.
They are also having a break for some commissioning work. That involves bringing some portions of the beam line up to atmospheric pressure, and working on the hardware within. They call it 'burping'. The vacuum system is amazing, it's the biggest 'hole in the atmosphere' and alot of energy was expended to pump it out. So we don't want to bring all of it back to normal pressure. So by design there are sections which house the equipment and can be isolated. [ I think there are iris diaphragms - a bit like a camera shutter - that open and close as desired ]. Alot of the equipment is within Horizontal Access Modules placed at key points.
Here's an example, from Livingston, of the sort of things that need maintenance. A stuffed photodetector :
so it's days of lasers are over.
As for underground power lines, the reason may be quite banal. While more expensive to lay they cost relatively little to maintain. Whereas overhead lines are cheaper to erect, but need ongoing care.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Here's a good plot indicating
)
Here's a good plot indicating the influence of the 60Hz power supply upon matters :
The whole plot is a 'noise budget' reflecting from what source is the energy coming from. The red circles indicate the base frequency plus multiples ( harmonics ) at 120 Hz, 180 Hz and 240 Hz. Nearly all the colored curves show these features. Each curve color represents the mode/mechanism/box within which the noise lies. So this is like someone humming next to you while you are trying to watch the TV/live-show/movie ...... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) How would you reduce that 60Hz signal + harmonics? Ah, well that is indeed the question .... you have to use electricity for lots of gadgets AND many of them are expecting 60Hz for their normal operation. So you have to let Mister Sixty Hertz enter the property ...... :-)
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I think my mains frequency is
)
I think my mains frequency is 50 Hz in Italy. I used to put my finger on the input of an HP Oscilloscope set to that frequency and I could see a beautiful sine wave. Nobody cared about "electrosmog" in these years.
Tullio
RE: I think my mains
)
I think the Hanford site has a power plant a few miles to the northeast with transmission lines passing even closer by the interferometer. Even if the lines were arranged in quadrupolar pattern ( four to a bundle with separators ) to reduce radiation it'll still emit a significant signal. It's actually possible to steal power if you live nearby/under these long distance lines ( draped tower to tower ) - simply do your math and lay your lines underground as you'll get an induced current within the loop you make. You have to be close as quadrupoles drop by the inverse cube I think. A few people DownUnda have been prosecuted for exactly that! :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Maybe that is why ENEL is
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Maybe that is why ENEL is putting power lines underground...
RE: Maybe that is why ENEL
)
I don't think it's ever been proven to any agreed standard, but they may be sensitive to claims against them for some of the rarer leukaemias and the like which some researchers have indicated might be the case. Perhaps the EM radiation is sufficiently resonant, it is claimed, to affect ionic 'pores' in cell membranes. It's hard to tell whether any clusters of cases can be reliably attributed though. In any case underground lines are quite expensive to install but have comparatively very small maintenance indeed ....
( and Wikipedia says it's inverse cube )
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) I spy with my Google Earth Eye something I've marked with a nearby red line :
which when enlarged :
( edit ) Can anyone find that pesky railway line near Livingston LIGO? :-)
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I think there is a railway
)
I think there is a railway line also near Virgo and it is the Pisa-Florence line, with a good deal of traffic also because it serves the Pisa airport for tourists coming and going both ways, since the Florence airport is small and does not accept wide bodied aircrafts.
Tullio,
Ah, what a laugh ...... I
)
Ah, what a laugh ...... I have to show this from the Hanford logs:
which is the sound of a 'golf cart' going on/off a concrete slab near their kitchen. See how sensitive is our spacetime measuring device ?! Leading to the following rule :
Cheers, Mike. ( who is clearly having a quiet night on the graveyard shift himself .... )
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
RE: RE: Maybe that is why
)
There's also competing hypothesis that the electric fields precipitate out a curtain of pollution and particulates from the air, or that living under powerlines presupposes poorer housing/living conditions...
Or it could just be that the power distribution industry uses cancer-causing materials.
Or could it be that there are unhealthily elevated levels of O3 and other arcing products?
Thanks for a fascinating series of posts.
Good luck for getting good signals!
Regards,
Martin
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OFFTOPIC: EM is a real
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OFFTOPIC:
EM is a real heazord.
I have seen the nr's from an energy company.
I would never want to live 200m or less near a high powerline.
I've also seen what working for life with normal radar for fishingboats does to you. Severe skin-effects.
I tink you should approach it the same as low lvl radiation.
Hanford : They caught a live
)
Hanford : They caught a live bat and set it free, also found a dead one. It got stuck in a bucket, now stored upside down. Perhaps there's some 'hazing' going on as a result
They are also having a break for some commissioning work. That involves bringing some portions of the beam line up to atmospheric pressure, and working on the hardware within. They call it 'burping'. The vacuum system is amazing, it's the biggest 'hole in the atmosphere' and alot of energy was expended to pump it out. So we don't want to bring all of it back to normal pressure. So by design there are sections which house the equipment and can be isolated. [ I think there are iris diaphragms - a bit like a camera shutter - that open and close as desired ]. Alot of the equipment is within Horizontal Access Modules placed at key points.
Here's an example, from Livingston, of the sort of things that need maintenance. A stuffed photodetector :
so it's days of lasers are over.
As for underground power lines, the reason may be quite banal. While more expensive to lay they cost relatively little to maintain. Whereas overhead lines are cheaper to erect, but need ongoing care.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal