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True, but that still doesn't

True, but that still doesn't validate fairy tales.

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RE: True, but that still

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True, but that still doesn't validate fairy tales.


Well, people have died for those "fairy tales" and are still suffering today.
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RE: Well, people have died

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Well, people have died for those "fairy tales" and are still suffering today.

So maybe we should do something about them as they are apparently hurtful for our species and quality of life. Maybe we should also start considering indoctrination of religious beliefs in children as mental abuse.

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Your opinions remind me of

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Your opinions remind me of Aldous Huxley "Brave new world". But remember it ends with the Savage hanging himself.
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I loved the book as a story.

I loved the book as a story. However, as in some other dystopian fantasies Huxley described a world without religion and based on science which as a consequence has no love, loyalty, family life or art. As such he made the mistake of thinking that science and things like love and creativity are mutually exclusive. Many people, especially religious ones, seem to have this conception that science is cold and heartless and can't appreciate beauty. This is nonsense, though. I'll let Richard Feynman do the explaining that it is actually the other way around.

By the way, also in the US the Indians eventually died out and as far as I know this had nothing to do with atheism.

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RE: By the way, also in

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By the way, also in the US the Indians eventually died out and as far as I know this had nothing to do with atheism.


I have seen some Navajos in 1952/53 and it seems they are still there, also managing casinos. I have read Feynman but also "Disturbing the universe" by Freeman J.Dyson, whose opinions differ from yours. You seem to be rather dogmatic, like a kind of atheistic Pope.
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RE: I have read Feynman

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I have read Feynman but also "Disturbing the universe" by Freeman J.Dyson, whose opinions differ from yours.

Might be. That book is an autobiography, so which statements are you particularly referring to about which specific topic?

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You seem to be rather dogmatic, like a kind of atheistic Pope.

Why do you think that? Just because my views differ from yours?

Atheism is defined as something people don't do and as such not a dogma but actually quite the opposite. There are no defining characteristics of atheists, atheism does not prescribe a specific philosophy or a method of government and it does not unite people in any way.

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RE: Might be. That book is

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Might be. That book is an autobiography, so which statements are you particularly referring to about which specific topic?

Why do you think that? Just because my views differ from yours?

Atheism is defined as something people don't do and as such not a dogma but actually quite the opposite. There are no defining characteristics of atheists, atheism does not prescribe a specific philosophy or a method of government and it does not unite people in any way.


I am referring to the last chapter, Dreams of earth and heaven, where Dyson describes his meeting with a child God.
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RE: I am referring to the

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I am referring to the last chapter, Dreams of earth and heaven, where Dyson describes his meeting with a child God.

I am not going to buy the book. What does it say that contradicts my arguments and is it based on solid reasoning? Is he describing a dream, is he using a metaphor, does he conclude that God exists based on evidence, or what exactly?

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I cannot answer in a few

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I cannot answer in a few words. Read the book, he also describes his youthful experience in the Royal Air Force, his marriage with a German girl. his friendship with Feynman, his putting together the contrasting versions of quantum electrodynamics of Feynman, Schwinger and Tomonaga, his experiences in the space programs, the nuclear ban treatises, his lectures in Israel. At the end of this long road he meets God as a child. I am not going to condense all this in a Reader's Digest way.
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